love that "mig 41" design. if it is close to this itll be one of the best looking combat aircraft ever, imo
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The Su-57 and Mig-35 might not be production issues. Perhaps they just didn't meet expectations of Russian air force.
Of course, I'm just speculating
For the air defense role it doesn't matter how crappy your payload is, especially if you have other stealth fighters in your stable for the interception / HARM function.
The lightweight stealth fighter concept is more to serve two purposes.
-First, for China itself, a lightweight stealth fighter with poor payloads presumably would also have low cost, and would give China the ability to have "flying mine"-type stealth fighters like the F-35, but be able to put them into service in large numbers. I've previously proposed China buying Su-57 to provide "skeet" fighters to distract and absorb Western fire, but the Su-57 is still a large platform. A lightweight stealth fighter, in contrast, can perform this "skeet" function infinitely better than the Su-57, provided it can be cheap enough. Here, the stealth fighter's poor payload is not actually an issue, because this fighter isn't intended as strike, but rather air defense with an attritional mission.
-Second, for export buyers, lightweight stealth fighters provide an affordable alternative to the F-35 when the F-35 is becoming prolific. The proposed aircraft is also a mainly non-stealth strike fighter, which should satisfy the needs of most export partners, while at the same time avoiding terrible arms races (which is a plus for the proposed lightweight stealth fighter).
Ultimately, it depends as to how good the Checkmate's stealth shaping is. If the shaping is excellent, I don't see why the RuAF wouldn't purchase it, because while the Su-57 is a questionable counter to the F-35, the Checkmate could possibly be an excellent counter.
Well, “Check-Mate” is quite final. So, this thing better be a phenom!
RuAF doesn't see anything wrong with 57's ability to counter F-35 and 22. It's what it itself ordered and wanted to obtain, after all.
LTS, on the other hand, is made to meet the expectations of foreign customers.
Do the Chinese even have 3 stream cycle engines or pulse detonation engines for aircrafts, photonic radars, or any of that in development I can let you take a lucky guess which of those countries do before talking about 6th gens
I might be going ooh and aah with the darksword uav as well but they dont have anything comparable to the Su-70 that is also going to enter service.
I would strongly suggest anyone advocating Russian technological and manufacturing prowess over Chinese consider how many Su-57s have been placed into service vs J-20s. In addition, the scale of the planned Su-57 buy is...76? I do believe it's strongly suspected the Chinese already have that many in service, not 6 or 7 years from now, but today.
The Russians talk a lot, but rarely deliver on the timelines they claim.
The Americans bicker and air their wildly dirty laundry in public (or near enough) including their massive screw-ups.
The Chinese, by and large, make a public statement and then stick to it. They don't make a public statement until they are certain they can fulfill it.
Russians are entirely truthful about everything they say and can do so much on a $1.5 trillion economy. What I would expect from a Russian larping as an Israeli.Do the Chinese even have 3 stream cycle engines or pulse detonation engines for aircrafts, photonic radars, or any of that in development I can let you take a lucky guess which of those countries do before talking about 6th gens
I might be going ooh and aah with the darksword uav as well but they dont have anything comparable to the Su-70 that is also going to enter service.