PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

Well, I do not believe the PLAN has any SU-33s yet. My prior post is under the expectation that they ultimately will and that those aircraft off of a Chinese carrier would be some of the competition for the F-18s.

As it stands now, I guess the Chinese produced J-11s (license built SU-27s), purchased SU-27s and SU-30s are the actual inventory that the PRC has.

Here's a good article regarding the 2005 Moscow Airshow that has interesting information on the PLAN SU-33 possibility.

Re: My trip to the US Navy Reserve Fleet in Bremerton, WA

Su-27 Pilot said:

WOW, nice looking family. I think one of the carrier almost hit the shore dont you think ??

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Thanks. Our families, where ever we live, are one of those things in life that tie all people every where together.

The USS Independence is berthed just like that, right up against the shore.

Just looking at what the US Navy holds in reserve, in mothballs, is pretty impressive...and that's just in that one anchorage.

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

Jeff Head said:

Well, I do not believe the PLAN has any SU-33s yet. My prior post is under the expectation that they ultimately will and that those aircraft off of a Chinese carrier would be some of the competition for the F-18s.

As it stands now, I guess the Chinese produced J-11s (license built SU-27s), purchased SU-27s and SU-30s are the actual inventory that the PRC has.

Here's a good article regarding the 2005 Moscow Airshow that has interesting information on the PLAN SU-33 possibility.

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My father used to be in the PLAN East Sea fleet, and he and his old officer buddies told me that the PLAN even in his fleet changed so much in just ten years. !! But none of the two sovremenny is in his naval base though.

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

Su-27 Pilot said:

My father used to be in the PLAN East Sea fleet, and he told me that PLAN changed so much in just ten years. !!

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I believe it.

In the few years I have been watching the PLAN, their growth and modernization rates are simply incredible. The rate at which the PLAN is building ships right now is breathtaking.

I pray we can all avoid any tensions or conflict.

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

Jeff Head said:

I believe it.

In the few years I have been watching the PLAN, their growth and modernization rates are simply incredible. The rate at which the PLAN is building ships right now is breathtaking.

I pray we can all avoid any tensions or conflict.

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China and USA both wants peace for the sake of mankind. But for some reason, both nations still has enemy like suspicion towards one another.

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

Events at the end of World War II, the Korean War, the basic differences between a constitutional republic (US) and Communism (PRC) all play into the ongoing situation.

My guess is, that if the PRC moves more and more towards easing the government's control of its people, and as the Chinese people themselves become more free and prosperous, that everything will work out fine.

If the communist leaders are committed to reform and a peaceful integration of China into world affairs, I believe conflict will be avoided.

Of course, the key issue right now in that equation is Taiwan. If they and the PRC can somehow continue to move forward peacefully, again, I believe conflict will be avoided.

As I said, I hope and pray that is the case.

Re: AWACS for future chinese carrier

Su-27 Pilot said:

Good one though. PLAN also showed strong interests in getting that Russian AWACS during the Peace mission 2005.

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Thanks. I guess time will tell.

Re: AWACS for future chinese carrier

russian awacs? the plan can do better thanm that. they cant just go to the russians for everything on the carrier.

cmon, if the the first chinese cvbg is varyag holding sea flankers with helix's and featuring russian awacs and escorted by sovs and kilo's, that wouldn't be a big sense of natiional pride. the plan should do something like this if they want a carrier quik, but then they should build thy're own. i heard they already are.

Re: AWACS for future chinese carrier

Well i've heard that those RATO things are not quite popular onboard carriers...something to do whit the highly flamamble rocket fuels...mayby Popeye could tell more...

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Yes those rockets would not be practical on a CVN. You'd have to clear the flight deck to launch something like that. I think that on the Forrestal they just deck launched the C-130. (took off from the stern like a runway)

Re: My trip to the US Navy Reserve Fleet in Bremerton, WA

where is Bremerton, big city?Is it one of US Navy reserve port, or all navy reserves are ported there? you got a nice family and your grandson is lovely