PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

bd popeye · Sep 17, 2005

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

Jeff Head said:
Actually, if they wanted to max it out like they were doing during the cold war, a Nimitz can easily carry well in excess of 80 aircraft. The old cold-war load out was:

24 F-14 Air superiority
24 A-7 ground/surface attack
12 A6E All weather, heavy ground/surface attack
6 KA6D Tankers
4 E2C AWACS
4 EA6B EW
10 S3A ASW
6 SH-3G ASW

That's a total of ninety (90) aircraft.

Because of cost cuts and the end of the cold war, the current composition is less, ranging down to between 50 and 60. But that number could be rapidly increased in the event of any kind of crisis or pressing need.

UGG!! I hated that. That was our CVW-11 make up on the USS America in 1981. Talk about a crowded flight & hangar deck

. But we got the job done.

Actually our A-6 squadron, VA-95, had 16 total aircraft including tankers. Also if I'm not mistaken we had 4 F-14's with TARPS included in that Tomcat total.

Jeff Head · Sep 17, 2005

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

I am led to understand that they varied somewhat...but somewhere between 86 and 92 aircraft were carried fairly regularly I believe.

By the way...if you get a chance, you may enjoy checking out this thread...

My Trip to the US Navy Reserve Fleet in Bremerton

I'd be interested in your comments.

Gollevainen · Sep 17, 2005

Re: AWACS for future chinese carrier

Well i've heard that those RATO things are not quite popular onboard carriers...something to do whit the highly flamamble rocket fuels...mayby Popeye could tell more...

I once had this crazy tough that if Y-7/hawkeye size plane fitted whit similar type of engine aragment like in An-72 Coaler to provide STOL capapility?

Or what the hell...how about his one? THe Planned AWACS version of it called An-71 Madcap

Jeff Head · Sep 17, 2005

Re: AWACS for future chinese carrier

Great pics there too! It is amazing what one can find.

I believe the US will ultimately develop an AWACS version of the V-22 Osprey. It would be a natural for any Wasp, Tarawa, or allied nation's jump jet carriers.

I would not be surprised tosee the PLAN ultimatley do something similar.

MIGleader · Sep 17, 2005

Re: AWACS for future chinese carrier

the turbo props on the model dont look big or strong enough to take off vertically like the ospry. maybe the chinese will use rokets, or maybe a combo.

its not imposible to put a catapult on the side deck of varyag.

MIGleader · Sep 17, 2005

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

we can get an idea of varyags holding abulities buy looking at kutznev.

MIGleader · Sep 17, 2005

Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card

IDonT said:
There are counter measures used to decoy the torpedo. At the speeds the CSG operates, its very unlikely that a SSK can get within firing position.

the sub dosn't sail towards the cvbg, it waits and lets the cvbg come to it.
it can also use its anti ship missles to attack the carrier.

Su-27 Pilot · Sep 17, 2005

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

Jeff Head said:
Actually, if they wanted to max it out like they were doing during the cold war, a Nimitz can easily carry well in excess of 80 aircraft. The old cold-war load out was:

24 F-14 Air superiority
24 A-7 ground/surface attack
12 A6E All weather, heavy ground/surface attack
6 KA6D Tankers
4 E2C AWACS
4 EA6B EW
10 S3A ASW
6 SH-3G ASW

That's a total of ninety (90) aircraft.

Because of cost cuts and the end of the cold war, the current composition is less, ranging down to between 56 and 68 or so. But that number could be rapidly increased in the event of any kind of crisis or pressing need.

Is the F-18 series a fighter/bomber or multirole ??

Jeff Head · Sep 17, 2005

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

Su-27 Pilot said:
Is the F-18 series a fighter/bomber or multirole ??

Multi-role. The new Super Hornet has a much greater range and many other performance characteristics, including carry capacity.

It is an extremely good air superiority fighter.

Su-27 Pilot · Sep 17, 2005

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

Jeff Head said:
Multi-role. The new Super Hornet has a much greater range and many other performance characteristics, including carry capacity.

It is an extremely good air superiority fighter.

What the PLAAF equiavalent of the F-18 ??

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