PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing
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Attacking CVs
So in this discussing are we looking at a hypothetical attack on a generic aircraft carrier? There are two nations in the East with them, India and Thailand. Ofcourse Japan has helicopter ships and as usual there are American and maybe British CVs in the area.
Attacks on one nation's CV would be different from the next nation's CV. PLAN submarines ,PLAAF and PLAN strike aircraft would have more of an effect on on CVBG than another.
So in this discussing are we looking at a hypothetical attack on a generic aircraft carrier? There are two nations in the East with them, India and Thailand. Ofcourse Japan has helicopter ships and as usual there are American and maybe British CVs in the area.
Attacks on one nation's CV would be different from the next nation's CV. PLAN submarines ,PLAAF and PLAN strike aircraft would have more of an effect on on CVBG than another.
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Re: Attacking CVs
well, i guess chinas cvbg will definitly kick the thai and indian cvbg much more easily than the u.s one. south korea also has lpds. alot of the methods china has developed to counter a u.s cvbg will have a much larger sucsses rate on the indians or thai. but i dont see a thai war any time soon, but india...
Raven said:
well, i guess chinas cvbg will definitly kick the thai and indian cvbg much more easily than the u.s one. south korea also has lpds. alot of the methods china has developed to counter a u.s cvbg will have a much larger sucsses rate on the indians or thai. but i dont see a thai war any time soon, but india...
Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card
Well, the current Indian CVBG centered around INS Viraat is not really comparable to a US CVBG. The main mission for the Viraat is to provide air cover and ASW support for a task force, strike missions on enemy shores and ships could be conducted, but I don't think Viraat will be seen to often in Chinese home waters in the event of a war.
If Viraat would venture to China, it probably would have to be kept out of range from Chinas fighter-bombers, only making fast hit and run attacks towards strategic targets on the coast. Staying for a longer time in the area covered by fighter-bombers only would mean that it would be sunk sooner or later.
The subs would be a threat, but by moving at high speeds and searching carefully with firgates and choppers in front of the formation they can be avoided. A SSK usually doesn't have enough fire power to sink a carrier with one salvo, and staying around long enough to reload is close to suicide. A single torpedo can however seriously damage a carrier, making it unoperational.
Well, the current Indian CVBG centered around INS Viraat is not really comparable to a US CVBG. The main mission for the Viraat is to provide air cover and ASW support for a task force, strike missions on enemy shores and ships could be conducted, but I don't think Viraat will be seen to often in Chinese home waters in the event of a war.
If Viraat would venture to China, it probably would have to be kept out of range from Chinas fighter-bombers, only making fast hit and run attacks towards strategic targets on the coast. Staying for a longer time in the area covered by fighter-bombers only would mean that it would be sunk sooner or later.
The subs would be a threat, but by moving at high speeds and searching carefully with firgates and choppers in front of the formation they can be avoided. A SSK usually doesn't have enough fire power to sink a carrier with one salvo, and staying around long enough to reload is close to suicide. A single torpedo can however seriously damage a carrier, making it unoperational.
Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card
Maybe the INS Viraat would be forced to retreat if struck one conventially armed torpedo. But not a Nimitz class.
The redundancy of the compartmentation of a Nimitz class would have to be seen to be understood. Watertight intregrity in the compartments that would be targeted by underwater attack is always maintained.
It would be difficult to render a CVN unoperable with a single torpedo. I have no idea how many topredos it would take to disable a Nimitz calss. But I'm sure it would be a substanial number.
Maybe the INS Viraat would be forced to retreat if struck one conventially armed torpedo. But not a Nimitz class.
The redundancy of the compartmentation of a Nimitz class would have to be seen to be understood. Watertight intregrity in the compartments that would be targeted by underwater attack is always maintained.
It would be difficult to render a CVN unoperable with a single torpedo. I have no idea how many topredos it would take to disable a Nimitz calss. But I'm sure it would be a substanial number.
Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card
You think the IN is a "blue water" navy? Let's put it this way, neither navies have the power projection capability to engage the other in any significant context. The IN had to use taiwan's facilities during it's exercise in the south china sea, and just how many Chinese ships can actually get to the bay of bangal with the limited amount of replenishing ships the Chinese have?
You think the IN is a "blue water" navy? Let's put it this way, neither navies have the power projection capability to engage the other in any significant context. The IN had to use taiwan's facilities during it's exercise in the south china sea, and just how many Chinese ships can actually get to the bay of bangal with the limited amount of replenishing ships the Chinese have?
Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card
are you suggesting that the surface search range for the Harrier's radar is greater than 200 km? I honestly don't know. Given the limitation imposed by Earth's curvature (no ionosphere bouncing here), the only advantage the Indian carrier provides is the Harriers, as they haven't received the navalized Fulcrums yet.
are you suggesting that the surface search range for the Harrier's radar is greater than 200 km? I honestly don't know. Given the limitation imposed by Earth's curvature (no ionosphere bouncing here), the only advantage the Indian carrier provides is the Harriers, as they haven't received the navalized Fulcrums yet.