PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card

Jeff posted..>>""Popeye, are you aware that the Song has been being delivered to the PLAN since 1994? The PLAN has eight or nine of them.""

Yes I am. I can state that the USN has had great difficulty tracing diesel subs...Someone..My son told me that the diesel boats are hard if not impossible to track.

As soon as most Soivet subs left port in the cold war days they had a shadow.

Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card

Jeff Head said:

If they did, it would most likely be other subs, either ADCAP LA or Sea Wolf, in the China and South China Seas.

USN boats would regularly tag Soviet subs soon after they left port and got into international waters...outside of a 12 or so mile zone. Sometimes sooner I am told.

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its different. u.s had subs in europe to track the russians. the u.s likely cant send planes to track the pla's subs over taiwan strait. and the pla has not sent its subs on world missions yet.

Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card

MIGleader said:

and the pla has not sent its subs on world missions yet.

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Just this year there was a new PLAN sub off of Guam. Either a 093 or a Yuan is my guess. May well have been tagged while in the vicinity.

...and I am willing to bet that advanced LA class or Sea Wolf class subs do enter the China and South China Seas. They are the ones that would most probably tag the new Chinese subs and get their signatures.

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

Thanks Jeff, this is really appreciated.

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

TJJH said:

Thanks Jeff, this is really appreciated.

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You are welcome. It's just my opinion and projection based on what is going on in the PLAN shipyards and what they might accomplish with the hulls they have available to them.

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

is it jsut me or there's no Kiev in that pic...?

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

swimmerXC said:

is it jsut me or there's no Kiev in that pic...?

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The Kiev class is the smaller one to the right. It is made up in the configuration that the Russians are doing for the Gorshkov (the last Kiev class) for the Indians...making it a full deck carrier smaller than the Varyag.

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

oh, my mistake, i though it was two Varyag class
did you make this?

Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?

swimmerXC said:

Did you make this?

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Yes. It's a fictional projection of what the PLAN CBG might look like. That one was in direct answer to PLABUDDY's request to make it more submarine centric...to add more SSNs.

Re: PLAN CVs

Raven said:

Can anyone tell me what kind of night operations the PLAAF and PLAN do?

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Well, I would bet that their land based air (both PLAN and PLAAF) conduct some fairly high level of night time operations for sure. They have no operational aircraft carriers so it is a given that they are not conducting them...and my guess is, once they do have one, it will be a good while before they have effective (or maybe even conduct) night time operations.

I cannot speak for their ship borne helos, but I would imagie some level of night time capability exists there.