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Jeff Head

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By the way (and sorry for being off topic), Jeff, you were somehow dragged into some infight on the BR forum's Chinese Military thread. It sounds like someone there really resents you. ;)
Sorry to hear it.

You cannot have an opinion about some of this stuff, or even write fictional novels without someone taking issue with it and making more out of it than the sincere opinion it may be, and the fiction that the novel is.

Oh well. I hope they get over it.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
Sorry to hear it.

You cannot have an opinion about some of this stuff, or even write fictional novels without someone taking issue with it and making more out of it than the sincere opinion it may be, and the fiction that the novel is.

Oh well. I hope they get over it.
What's BR forum?
 

Jeff Head

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What's BR forum?
It's the forum portion of a web site by an individual called, Bharat Rakshak, who has put together a consortium of Indian defense web sites over the years.

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There's some really good stuff there sometimes, but also some very opinionated people, some of whom actively post for, and hope for China to go to war with Japan, Vietnam, the US, etc. so that China can be weakened and easier to handle from India's perspective. IMHO, it is not very well moderated in that regard.

I suspect someone took issue with my book series, "Dragon's Fury: World War against America and the West," because in that fictional novel I have India actually allying with China and some of them take personal offense to that, even though it is a purely fictional novel.

Such people generally find that I am relatively conservative and so it does not take long, in their dislike for my fictional scenario, for some of them to start throwing angry labels around like imperialist, War Monger, Racist, etc., etc. though none of those have anything remotely to do with me. But when you decide you dislike someone, and you cannot argue with the purely technical aspects of what they say, sadly, far too many resort to ad hominem attacks to try and compensate for their lack of any reasoned argument.

Oh well, I learned long ago to treat it like water on a duck's back feathers.
 
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chuck731

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I do not think that the Liaoning can be considered by any stretch to be "home built." It as not. The hull was pretty much 100% complete when it came to China and I would expect someone in his position to know this.

It was refurbished in China it is true. But as I understood it, the wording he used was close to what in English we would call indigenous, which cannot be construed at all as they type of program the Varyag transformation into the Liaoning was.

But then again, I am not native in the least in the language and I could well be wrong on that point.
I think talking up the achievements of one's own country always plays well, especially when there is rather low truth grain count in it, and therefore most people would need official encouragement to feel good about feeling good about it.
 

kwaigonegin

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Bharat Rakshak.

Here is the chinese military watch thread:

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Damn! you be right. I think I lost a few IQ points just being in that forum. Apparently most everyone there is eagerly looking forward to total war and the annihilation of Pakistan and also China under the hands of the US and Japan.

It never cease to amaze me that people who advocate wars very seldom have served in one nor have they witnessed one themselves! War is hell. It's not a video game and it's certainly not the the sanitized version your see on CNN.


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Post subject: Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011PostPosted: 03 Feb 2014 14:13
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raj.devan, will you please stop reducing this thread to Jeff Head levels? I actually wasted precious hours of my life D/Ling his book and reading it. He is a right-wing nutjob who is really worried that the nasty brown/yellow/black people are going to overrun his whitebread world.
He is a semi-literate Hacksaw Jim Duggan whose 800+ pages of propagandu essential boils down to walking around the ring in spandex undies carrying a Stars and Stripes and a 2x4 and chanting "No more immigration! No more abortion! White people FTW! USA! USA! USA!"
A small sampler - according to him or rather, according to the Republican Tea Bag wet dream that is his magnum opus:
*India's head of Govt. is the President.
*Abortion is finally criminalised when researchers discover a structure "at a molecular or atomic level" called Human Reasoning Structures, and therefore abortion will be outlawed. Amen, brother!
*Second amendment-style militias will help as response units against terrorist attacks.
*... you know what, there's just so much wrong, there's no point.

And to think you compared vivek_ahuja's incredibly detailed and thought-out scenarios to this ape's ramblings. SMH.
Jeff, I see you're well liked over there.. I take that as a compliment brother!
 
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bd popeye

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If those persons over there at BRW really knew Jeff Head they would not be calling him a racist...unbelievable.
 

weig2000

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I sometimes visit BR for discussions on Indian military affairs and Indian perspectives of China-related defense development. Never bothered to post or register. It is too opinionated to have any informative, meaningful and balanced discussions.

That was also when I thought about SDF. Think about it: SDF is mostly about China and Chinese military. There is no other international topics that can be more controversial and causing more heated debates. Yet SDF continues to maintain a civil and professional atmosphere, where members can learn, get information, discuss and even debate many controversial subjects among people with different backgrounds.

The credit should go to the moderators and senior members at SDF.

If those persons over there at BRW really knew Jeff Head they would not be calling him a racist...unbelievable.
 

B.I.B.

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A picture would be helpful my young padawan. lol
I don't know how to post pictures. Ill see if I can find one from existing ones.

I just saw your above photo,Thanks I think that's what Im talking about. The photo Im talking about made them look slightly different, possibly the angle.
 
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