PLA Small arms


Norinco_81

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Optics for heavy machine guns and perhaps even autocannons.

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Is "Hwooung" the OEM for Holosun? I saw these same massive optics on display from Holosun back in SHOT Show 2019. I have the same magnifier and the 512C which looks similiar but obviously much smaller on my AR-15 pistol, and Holosun is my top recommendation when a newer shooter asks me which optics to go with.
 

by78

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Is "Hwooung" the OEM for Holosun? I saw these same massive optics on display from Holosun back in SHOT Show 2019. I have the same magnifier and the 512C which looks similiar but obviously much smaller on my AR-15 pistol, and Holosun is my top recommendation when a newer shooter asks me which optics to go with.

Quite possibly. These even have solar panels built in, same as many Holosun optics.
 

Norinco_81

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The same accessory rail and grip from a different angle. I wonder what optic that is.

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That is just an EO-Tech EXPS-2 or 3.

I don't even know why they or Russians even use EO-turds, I had a 512 fail on me years ago. I've seen posts on other forums of police department issued EO-Techs where the failure rate is much higher than Aimpoints. I said screw EO-Tech way before the thermal drift debacle.

All my Chinese made optics from Holosun to Primary Arms have been 100% reliable, haven't had to send any back for repairs.
 

plawolf

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That is just an EO-Tech EXPS-2 or 3.

I don't even know why they or Russians even use EO-turds, I had a 512 fail on me years ago. I've seen posts on other forums of police department issued EO-Techs where the failure rate is much higher than Aimpoints. I said screw EO-Tech way before the thermal drift debacle.

All my Chinese made optics from Holosun to Primary Arms have been 100% reliable, haven't had to send any back for repairs.
That’s just armed police. They buy all sorts of things to play with because they got the budget and freedom to buy off the shelf from overseas.

Sometimes it makes sense to buy a few samples of all the most popular brands so you can see for yourself what works and what doesn’t for your needs before committing to a major order.
 

tupolevtu144

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Also note that solder in the fifth row back (right side of the picture) sporting a QBV/QBU-191.

All here without optics, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were only recently re equipped.

Of interest is that the QBB-95 is visible in the third row back (noted from its bipod, visible), so at least for this unit, for now the QBB-95 will remain the IAR role.

Will be interesting to see if they eventually get replaced by the QBV/QBU-191. After all, giving it a drum mag or even giving it more standard 30 round mags for the soldier carrying it will allow it to perform quite well as an IAR as well.
Has the new belt-fed saw received a designation number yet? I wonder why the PLA decided to design a gpmg that uses drum mags back then, don't drum mags jam a lot? I also wonder whats the difference between the Soviet style of gpmg that uses full-power rounds like the 7.62 (like the PKM and type 86) and the western type that uses intermediate calibers like the 5.56 or 5.8 (like the fn minimi and qjb)
 

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