PLA Small arms


AZaz09dude

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I sometimes wonder if they do this intentionally to throw PLA watchers off... Between not knowing anything or them just showing random weird stuff, I rather take what I can get.
HopefullyProbably just more circus tricks for the camera. At least they're no longer smashing bricks on their heads.

On another note, from the crossbows, to these blowguns, or those absolutely ridiculous "taser gloves" they showed off not too long ago, it really makes you wonder when are they finally going to adopt something along the lines of 9x39/.300 blackout? Since there is very obviously a niche to be filled here. Maybe a bit louder, but a dead enemy is probably quieter than one that you failed to kill/incapacitate and now knows you're here and is pissed off.
 

MwRYum

Major
Maybe a bit louder, but a dead enemy is probably quieter than one that you failed to kill/incapacitate and now knows you're here and is pissed off.
Something tells me China is still in the "call down the artillery to barrage that position" "it'll be loud, but he'll be too vapourized to be enemy anymore" stage...
 

Heliox

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Non-lethal blowguns with apparently paralyzing darts. A very, very niche weapon, and I wonder about its effectiveness and usefulness.

Not a firearm, but posting it here since this is the most appropriately close place I could find.

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I think it needs a pic rail to be complete.

I mean, it's meant to be used stealthy and dark. You gotta need a mount for a PEQ-15 or better still, zeroed to a TI sight or somesuch.

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AZaz09dude

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Something tells me China is still in the "call down the artillery to barrage that position" "it'll be loud, but he'll be too vapourized to be enemy anymore" stage...
Lol that's probably the ideal solution, but in a lot of their exercises you can see they insist on having a hush puppy for some units (in practice mostly just with the crossbows and suppressed smgs.) For that, upgrading to something at or approaching rifle lethality really wouldn't hurt.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
From the length of the magazine I think it's probably 7.62mm, although I could be wrong.
According to the Global times it is 7.62.
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The new sniper rifle again, this time in service with the PAP.

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The one in this image has a skeletal thumb hole that runs from the bottom of the pistol grip back into the stock with an angled indentation. This seems to be the first iteration.

Theses images could indicate that the sniper rifle in the quoted post (middle rifle) has been adopted by the PLA in some capacity. I still don't know the designation or caliber. Might be chambered for 5.8mm?

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This rifle lacks the thumb hole and has the straight indentation. Farther both it and the PAP carried one have a indentation along the forearm of the gun. We see below both this variant and the FY JS 5.8
The sniper rifle in the middle could be an updated or upgraded variant of CS/LR3 or CS/LR4, with some minor differences in furniture. It might fire a smaller caliber than 7.62mm, given what appears to be a smaller ejection port cutout.

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I think that what happened was they started with the FY JS 5.8mm, then moved to beef it up. Experimental guns the XY 7.62 and JS 7.62 trialed the 7.62 Soviet and NATO respectively were built, then they chose 7.62 NATO with options to later adopt 8.6. For initial builds they decided to basically copy the ergonomics of the Fy JS for early production blocks. there could be a practical reason to do that as any residual FY JS in the system could be used for training. 5.8x42mm ammo I would be significantly more plentiful in the PAP or PLA than NATO spec 7.62. It would also allow for teaching of bullet drop and wind shift on shorter ranges.
Then they gave it a redesign for full production realizing that the similarities were really only cosmetic and had little effects on handling.
At least that’s my thinking.
 

SpoonceDaSpoon

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The type 86 fragmentation grenade. Used to have a thread on grenades. Now long dead.

Had to dive back a couple years to see such clear hand grenade usage. I guess the sniper and automatic launchers are more interesting to put on display, from a capability perspective.

Does anyone know what the current standard issue hand grenade is? Is it this Type 86? Curious if there's any new developments in this area
 

kriss

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Had to dive back a couple years to see such clear hand grenade usage. I guess the sniper and automatic launchers are more interesting to put on display, from a capability perspective.

Does anyone know what the current standard issue hand grenade is? Is it this Type 86? Curious if there's any new developments in this area
Latest development is modular grenades not unlike ones tested by USMC lately. Though whether it is deployed in mass in unknown.
 

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