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davidau said:

where 057 model shown before? As far as I know 057 is a new model. Ones shown before were 022 FP? for Pakistan and other African countries

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What do you mean?
I'm saying that the picture you showed is not 057. It's a model of a "frigate"/corvette that's been shown at a few naval and defence expos. I think it was first around two years ago or so.

A better question is why do you think this model is 057? Because whoever claimed that probably doesn't know what they are talking about.


We haven't had any pictures or models of what 057 will look like. Hell we don't even know if 057 will be called that or not, right now it seems like the next generation frigate will be called 054B instead.

davidau said:

057 for export ?...

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I have no idea how that thing could be only 1,500tons. Based on the size of the Z-9 it is clearly much bigger than the 056.

davidau said:

057 for export ?...

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LOL why don't you check this very forum
by78, Jun 11, 2015

by78 said:

Aesthetically speaking (I know, I know), that 'lantern mask' has too many facets. Personally, I'd much prefer the 'lantern mast' design on this:

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So this is an x-post from CDF... and I think this definitely constitutes breaking news of some sort!

First of all, does anyone remember a CGI from a few years back in 2014 of a supposed "057"? It was roundly dismissed though praised for being a good quality CGI.

Well, apparently CSSC have just offered a ship model that looks almost exactly like that CGI in many ways, at Pakistan's IDEAS expo, but instead of being a "frigate" (or 054A successor) it seems to be an improved version of the C28A corvette with an integrated mast MFR and VLS (via henry k)

The original CGI is below. Note the similar/identical main mast and even side arrays, and the positioning of the HQ-10 CIWS, slant AShM launchers, and even small details which are similar like the positioing of the VLS on a slightly elevated platform, and even the ESM mast location on the smoke stack. Hell, even the windows on the deckhouse structure look identical between the CGI and the model

One major difference is that the CSSC model has a 76mm gun rather than the 130mm gun, and instead of side mounted autocannons they have CIWS instead... and we can't see if there's an aft VLS bank as well like in the CGI... But in the scheme of things the similarities are astonishing.

More importantly, what does this mean for the original CGI from 2014? Was the original artist able to view an official schematic or model for this ship and thus able to produce a near identical CGI nearly two years before this official model of a real product was viewed to the public!
What does this mean for the artist? Does that mean we should take his CGIs maybe a bit more seriously? Or was this just a one-off?? I'm still in disbelief.


the original CGI from 2014:



the model at IDEAS


aft of the model at IDEAS

I feel it's very important Chinese, US Navy ships maneuver off California

U.S. Navy destroyer USS Bunker Hill took part in a maneuvering exercise with People’s Liberation Army (Navy) ships off the coast of Southern California, December 9.

The Chinese Navy ships were departing San Diego following a three-day visit.

Jiangkai II-class frigates Yancheng (FFG 546) and Daqing (FFG 576), and the Fuchi-class oiler Tai Hu (AOR 889) joined Bunker Hill exercising communications and safety of navigation, and maneuvering into various formations.

“This was my first time participating in an exercise like this with our PLA(N) counterparts,” said seaman Jerika Robinson. “It gave me a better understanding of the way their [PLA(N)] ships operate.”

The latest visit was the third time Chinese Navy ships visited San Diego since 2014.

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Bunker Hill is not a destroyer. It is a Ticonderoga class guided-missile cruiser.I saw these photos yesterday or Friday on DVIDS. ..

PACIFIC OCEAN (Dec. 09, 2016) The guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill (CG 52) participates in a maneuvering exercise with People's Liberation Army (Navy) frigate Daqing (FFG 576) off the coast of Southern California. The PLA(N) ships joined Bunker Hill at sea following a routine port visit to San Diego. (U.S. Navy photos by Petty Officer 3rd Class Craig Z. Rodarte)

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Not sure if this is the correct thread to post this. The report is a week ago but I just see it today...

China's largest semi-submersible ship delivered
China's newest and largest semi-submersible ship, capable of carrying 100,000 tonnes of cargo, was delivered for operation on Thursday.

The ship, Xin Guang Hua, is 255 meters long and 68 meters wide.Guangzhou Shipyard International Company, the builder, delivered the ship to Cosco Shipping Specialized Carriers Co. Ltd, a member of China Ocean Shipping Group, in the southern city of Guangzhou.

Semi-submersible ships are mainly used to transport large cargo such as maritime platforms and can also be used in salvage missions.

Cosco Shipping Specialized Carriers Co. has eight semi-submersible ships, with loading capacity ranging from 20,000 tonnes to 100,000 tonnes.

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SteelBird said:

Not sure if this is the correct thread to post this. The report is a week ago but I just see it today...

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In other words this ship could transport a fully-loaded Nimitz carrier (if placed slanted on the deck). That's pretty impressive.

SteelBird said:

Not sure if this is the correct thread to post this. The report is a week ago but I just see it today...

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This shipbis massive, Iron Man beat me to it because I was about to say it can easily carry a mid size aircraft carrier.

These ships are designed to carry oil platforms around the World. Building these in South Korea to use them in the Atlantic area would be hardly be practical. Earlier oil platforms were pulled by half a dozen tugs and were then painfully slow. They were originally developed by the German ship owner DDG. When this company failed there remained just several Dutch ship owners in this branch of shipping, I think, until China too started to use them.
I wouldn't want to try to carry a Nimitz on one. Its back might be broken. But heavy damaged USN destroyers and frigates have been brought home and a Kilo is now on its way from St Petersburg to Vietnam, all by Dutch ships.