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Nutrient

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Cloud services are not physically centralized. They are distributed around different regional data centers with multiple disaster recovery backups. Stop acting like no one has thought of basic obvious stuff.
Stop acting like people understand every possible mode of failure. For example, Parler.com thought it was safe to use Amazon's cloud services. After all, Amazon is the largest, most successful cloud provider, so it must be very fault tolerant, right? Parler learned the hard way that the fault tolerance of Amazon's hardware meant absolutely nothing when Amazon itself decided to attack Parler and cancel it. So Parler was basically dead for weeks; that was what they deserved for relying on a cloud provider.
 

gadgetcool5

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Stop acting like people understand every possible mode of failure. For example, Parler.com thought it was safe to use Amazon's cloud services. After all, Amazon is the largest, most successful cloud provider, so it must be very fault tolerant, right? Parler learned the hard way that the fault tolerance of Amazon's hardware meant absolutely nothing when Amazon itself decided to attack Parler and cancel it. So Parler was basically dead for weeks; that was what they deserved for relying on a cloud provider.
That's because Amazon close to kick out Parler, not because Amazon failed, though. All the more reason why China needs to have the power of cloud under its control. It cannot rely on foreign suppliers like Amazon.
 

Nutrient

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That's because Amazon close to kick out Parler, not because Amazon failed, though.
My point was that the effect was the same, regardless of whether Amazon's equipment failed, communications failed, or Amazon attacked its customer: Parler could and did die for weeks. Another user of the cloud would have similar risks -- it's safer to avoid the cloud.

All the more reason why China needs to have the power of cloud under its control. It cannot rely on foreign suppliers like Amazon.
It is better for a business to control what it can control. Why use cloud services (inside China or, worse, in the US) and take unnecessary risks? Parler thought they were cleverly saving money by using Amazon's cloud. As it turned out, they were committing suicide.
 

gadgetcool5

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My point was that the effect was the same, regardless of whether Amazon's equipment failed, communications failed, or Amazon attacked its customer: Parler could and did die for weeks. Another user of the cloud would have similar risks -- it's safer to avoid the cloud.


It is better for a business to control what it can control. Why use cloud services (inside China or, worse, in the US) and take unnecessary risks? Parler thought they were cleverly saving money by using Amazon's cloud. As it turned out, they were committing suicide.
Because if China controls the cloud provider, it's not a risk to China.

As for Parler, they are
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. So even the company you used in your example, STILL thinks cloud is best.

Please don't advocate China to abandon modern technology. This mentality should be left back in the Qing dynasty where it belongs. Chinese society needs to become more technological and accelerate its scientific and technological advancement, not abandon it.
 
My point was that the effect was the same, regardless of whether Amazon's equipment failed, communications failed, or Amazon attacked its customer: Parler could and did die for weeks. Another user of the cloud would have similar risks -- it's safer to avoid the cloud.


It is better for a business to control what it can control. Why use cloud services (inside China or, worse, in the US) and take unnecessary risks? Parler thought they were cleverly saving money by using Amazon's cloud. As it turned out, they were committing suicide.
It really wasn't Amazon acting alone, it was primarily due to social and governmental pressure. In China this is a moot point, because if you cross the line you will be shut down regardless of whether or not your service/application is hosted by the cloud or on premise.
 

escobar

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State media reports point out that while China currently dominates patent applications for some aspects of 6G, notably terahertz networking and AI-infused air interfaces, other nations are ahead in other 6G technologies.
China's pride in its patent portfolio may also be premature: while consortia have already formed to define 6G, and bodies like the GSM Association and International Telecommunications Union have started talking about it, a formal standard is not expected to emerge until late in the 2020
 

Hendrik_2000

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I will post excellent TV show on china scientific efforts with this series "China reinvents itself" Shown on CGTN documentary this episode is about energy The third episode is about turbo fan engine.
China is behind the west in Science and Technology but not by much most of them are due to legacy of politic turmoil China lost 3 decades of development and she is more than make up for it by now and speeding up.
Most of them are spar headed by return overseas scientist

New energy sources - of all the life-changing innovations made possible by scientific progress, perhaps are the most significant. In an age in which straw can be transformed into gas, aviation fuel distilled from gutter oil, and geothermal energy is making cities like Xiong’an smoke-free, anything seems possible. But one innovation has remained elusive: obtaining low-carbon olefins from coal. Will Academician Bao Xinhe succeed in his decade-long quest for this Holy Grail of Green Energy?
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Hendrik_2000

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What amazing idea turning Chicken poo into biogas and by further cleaning it supplied the village nearby with natural gas

GLOBALink | South African teacher decodes how Chinese village turns waste into treasure​

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Petrus Harmse, a South African living in China's Anhui, has recently visited an agricultural county of the province to decode how waste is turned into treasure there.
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Hendrik_2000

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As promised I posted the episode 3 of serial "China reinvent itself" this episode it talk about manufacturing thin glass for high tech product like smart screen and smart phone. then it talk about maglev transportation and C919 and Turbo engine component like LP blade China was asked by Rolls Royce to supplied LP turbine blade. they invented a process to make Turbine blade from Titanium Aluminum alloy that is impossible to make according o western expert But still china make the effort and succeeding in producing the blade See minute 17

High-speed rail travel is an area in which China is now an undisputed world-leader. But go to Chengdu and you’ll see that there’s a lot more excitement still to come! That’s because, led by Professor Deng Zigang, engineers are pushing “maglev” rail technology further than ever. Could 1,000-km-per-hour rail travel soon be a reality?

 
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