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gadgetcool5

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China should keep twisting the knife and if worst to come you and your family will be attacked on the street due to rising racism. But that's a sacrifice we are willing to make.

Well that's ridiculous. I don't see why I should give a crap about anyone who is willing to sacrifice me and my family. People like me are a bridge between two sides and that's exactly what the two countries need now.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Well that's ridiculous. I don't see why I should give a crap about anyone who is willing to sacrifice me and my family. People like me are a bridge between two sides and that's exactly what the two countries need now.
No no no, don't flatter yourself. Nobody in China needs or welcomes your kind. You're a bridge to nowhere. If a "Chinese" person like you talked to me, I'd vomit. America certainly hopes you can instill defeatism in China, but hey, failures are nothing new to them at this point so it's ok.
 

gadgetcool5

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No no no, don't flatter yourself. Nobody in China needs or welcomes you. You're a bridge to nowhere. America certainly hopes you can instill defeatism in China, but hey, failures are nothing new to them at this point so it's ok.

Well I disagree. I think both countries need people like me more than ever right now. I'm proud of myself and who I am. If that offends you, then too bad.
 

bajingan

Senior Member
I'm not saying it's China's "fault". All I care about is power and success. I want China to have it. In order to have it, it needs a successful tech industry leading the world. In order to have that, it must be able to compete in international markets because those have revenues and their competition will keep Chinese companies on the cutting edge.

I don't understand the viewpoint that it's somehow pro-China to simply come on a message board like this and say stuff like "everything is great." Then what's the point? If you have no weaknesses, then the battle is already won, no need to think about any of these questions. Then go play video games. But the reality is everyone can improve. If you ask me, there needs to be self-criticism or you can't advance.

One of the things about the U.S. you notice is that even when they are secure at the top, and the most advanced, they will always look as hard as they can for any weaknesses or threats to their position, no matter how remote, to stamp them out. They are always looking for their own weaknesses and criticizing themselves. That is how they have stayed on top for so long.

Lol you mention that the us always look for their own weakness and fixed them, they have healthcare, racial discrimination and systemic police brutality problems for decades and they haven't managed to fix them in fact covid has brutally exposed these problems as fatal flaws in american society
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Well I disagree. I think both countries need people like me more than ever right now. I'm proud of myself and who I am. If that offends you, then too bad.
Offends? Nah, that's far too dignified a word for you. Disgusts is correct. Falun Gong, Hong Kong terrorists are all proud. KKK are proud. Guys who kill women who reject them are proud too. But you cannot say anybody needs you; only they can say they need you and if they don't, then they don't. Otherwise, I think Fan BingBing really needs me right now more than ever... but I may not be able to go to her because Liu Yifei needs be more LOL. Unfortunately for you, I have not heard either country say they need spineless apologist fake Chinese before... not even the US. Maybe... Steve Bannon needs you for an interview or perhaps to write a part 2 on why COVID was a Chinese military biological weapon. Ask him LOL
 
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gadgetcool5

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Lol you mention that the us always look for their own weakness and fixed them, they have healthcare, racial discrimination and systemic police brutality problems for decades and they haven't managed to fix them in fact covid has brutally exposed these problems as fatal flaws in american society

Those are problems that affect the poor and Black people in the country. They do not represent the core elites or interests of the country. What I mean is the US always looks for weaknesses to its global power and hegemony obsessively.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Those are problems that affect the poor and Black people in the country. They do not represent the core elites or interests of the country. What I mean is the US always looks for weaknesses to its global power and hegemony obsessively.
So obsessively and meticulously that only long after Huawei had become the world's largest telecoms company with the best 5G technology worldwide did they have their Oh SHIT moment.
 

ansy1968

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Time for a break guys,

Here is a potential candidate for Trump sanction list, It compete directly with NVIDIA, ask the expert here about its capability? and at what node will it be produce? is the local foundry capable of producing it? From what we know both ALIBABA subsidiary and Huawei is also into GPU business?

from cnTechPost

Cambricon poised to break NVIDIA's monopoly in China, analysts say
2020-09-21 16:45:00 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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China's top investment bank CICC said Cambricon, one of China's most valuable artificial intelligence chipmakers is a leading global AI chip design company that is poised to break NVIDIA's monopoly in the domestic market on the back of rising demand for semiconductor import substitution.

In its first coverage of Cambricon with an outperform industry rating, CICC analysts Huang Leping said in a report that they are optimistic about the company's competitiveness in China's cloud-based AI chip market, which is expected to take the lead in benefiting from growing demand for AI computing power.


The report expects Cambricon's market share to increase from 2.5% in 2019 to 4.2% in 2022.
China's cloud-based AI chips market will grow from 8.8 billion yuan in 2019 to 22.8 billion yuan by 2022, at a CAGR of 38%, the report said.


Smart computing centers are one of the key directions for new infrastructure, and the construction of smart computing clusters across the country is expected to accelerate in the future, providing ample momentum for the company's short-term growth.
CICC has a target price of RMB 204.97 on Cambricon, corresponding to an 18% upside potential.
 

ansy1968

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Business is business, US Corporation priority is her share holders, they will go where the money are. And here my friends, China can leverage its advantage but at the same must pursue its own ingenious development. Remember the US acknowledge you as equal, if you are strong (in all IC field) and have something to offer that they dont have (ex.EV battery). In other words they cant blackmail you.

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Intel won't pull out of China, exec says
2020-09-21 18:18:42 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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Intel won't pull out of China, exec says-cnTechPost

China is a growing market, and where the market is, that's where the money is going, said Yang Xu, Intel's global vice president, adding Intel will continue to invest in China because choosing China is choosing to accelerate growth.

Yang Xu published an op-ed today on how Intel China is responding and positioning itself in an uncertain future.


He said that the industry needs to have a strong belief that while facing crisis situations, one has to figure out where the trend is. Intel has been rooted in China for 35 years and believes that complementary cooperation is the best way to overcome the difficulties.
In the article, Yang Xu recalled that in 2008, during the global financial crisis, Intel continued to invest in its Dalian factory, even without changing its hiring plans, despite the general contraction.


Yang Xu emphasizes that decoupling is a real risk for the US and China. But compared to companies in the industrial chain that are indecisive about moving their production lines out of China, Intel has no "retreat" in its dictionary.
He believes that China's development in the past few decades has opened up a huge market consumption scale and created a complete industrial chain. The Chinese government vigorously support innovation, industrial innovation speed is unparalleled, he said.

China's advantages cannot be copied by other countries in a short period of time, not in any other part of the world, he said, adding that to be in the same boat with China is to go with the tide and to develop synergistically.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I'm not saying it's China's "fault". All I care about is power and success. I want China to have it. In order to have it, it needs a successful tech industry leading the world. In order to have that, it must be able to compete in international markets because those have revenues and their competition will keep Chinese companies on the cutting edge.

I don't understand the viewpoint that it's somehow pro-China to simply come on a message board like this and say stuff like "everything is great." Then what's the point? If you have no weaknesses, then the battle is already won, no need to think about any of these questions. Then go play video games. But the reality is everyone can improve. If you ask me, there needs to be self-criticism or you can't advance.

One of the things about the U.S. you notice is that even when they are secure at the top, and the most advanced, they will always look as hard as they can for any weaknesses or threats to their position, no matter how remote, to stamp them out. They are always looking for their own weaknesses and criticizing themselves. That is how they have stayed on top for so long.


You're problem is you advocate surrendering to the enemy that is not looking out for the best interests of anyone but themselves. I don't care to be liked as much as you advocate Chinese do. You want to be liked hence why you're always talking about how being liked by others is important. I don't see the countries that value or brag about being liked more than China being the second most powerful country in the world. The people who brag about being liked have nothing else. Like I said... what are your examples of accomplishments sucking up to the West that's makes you superior to every other Chinese? I would like know what rewards you are getting?

The US criticizes themselves? No, they push the competition down like with Tiktok. That's they only way they can stay superior hence why they're alarmed over China. They need people like you to tell Chinese they can never do anything without them. If Americans operate romantically as you make it, they would blame no one else for their problems. They blame everyone else for their problems. You can't even recognize bull yet you think you're the impartial juror. Look at your arrogance that you think you have all the answers. Are you just mistaken thinking you know what's best? No you're just trying to impress the West so they like you personally. Never came across an Asian that sucks up to the West care about other Asians. You're just like those Chinese Christians I see preaching on Chinatown streets. If it were their white Christian handlers saying those things, they would come across as racist. So they get Chinese to do it so it doesn't look racist.
 
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