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Kancil

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It's extremely easy. Simply go back to the policies of Hu Jintao. Stop starting fights with everybody all the time. Close the Xinjiang concentration camps. Don't oppress ethnic minorities. Stop military incursions into Taiwan and the South China Sea. Settle the border dispute with ASEAN. Stop sinking Vietnamese fishing boats. Settle the Senkaku islands dispute with Japan. Demarcate the LAC with India. Release the two Michaels and the Australian journalist. Stop arresting lawyers and human rights activists. Give Americans some hope that China will be a benevolent nation and not a fascist empire.

If you do that not only America, but the entire world will be more warm towards China. People will rally around China against the US like you've never seen before, but the reality is nobody likes the US they just listen to it because they feel there is no better alternative. There is tremendous opportunity.
The Chinese did not start any fight. It is the US who is starting the war on China, and instigating all her underlings to provoke the Chinese. Closing Xinjiang education camps means allowing Islamic jihadist to incite rebellion.

Oppressing ethnic minorities by granting them preferential treatments in education and social services?

Stopping military exercises around Taiwan and the South China Sea while the US send their powerful navy across thousands of miles of the Pacific Ocean, brandishing their advanced weapons while sailing at your door step everyday? And further inciting Taiwan independence to restart the Chinese civil war.

There is no border dispute with ASEAN, only some states staking their claims in areas of the SCS which were reverted back by Imperial Japan to China after WW2.

When the Vietnamese are intent on sailing dangerously against larger Chinese vessels, collisions would result in sinking Vietnamese fishing boats.

Does settling the Senkaku islands dispute with Japan means acquiescing to the theft by the Japanese in 1895 .

Demarcate the LAC with India? How? India is intent on conquering Aksai Chin after having stolen South Tibet. And this is not the end of the Tibet story. India's end game is to detached Tibet and Xinjiang from China.

Release of the two Michaels can be done simultaneously with the release of Meng Wanzhou, and the Australian journalist can be release once those Aussie stop further provocation.

Stop arresting lawyers and human rights activists? Some maybe genuine, but most are closet agents of foreign powers. Americans only hope that China will not challenge their hegemony, but being an economic power is already a threat to the American standing in the world.

Only dreamers fantasy that America and her gang will be more warm towards China if China some how kneel before them. "People will rally around China against the US like you've never seen before, but the reality is nobody likes the US they just listen to it because they feel there is no better alternative" so this prove that people respect power fascist ( like the US ) or not.
 

cbl21

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Wait I'm so confused. Who owns TikTok in the end? Bytedance or America? BD says they'll have majority control, but Oracle disputes that.
 

taxiya

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Very good thing, the brain drain is over and the majority of graduates are going back to China
That includes my nephew who went to LA for master degree and worked there since graduation. Now he is waiting for the one-way journey back home.

"Thanks" to Trump, he has easily destroyed the good image (whatever it was still there) of USA in the mind of new generations of young Chinese. Now he got USA more resentment than appreciation from the world.
 

Anlsvrthng

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Only someone who has no understanding of Chinese culture can say something like this.
Prime example of biased note : D

How could you see the differences without having understanding of the wide array of European cultures?

: D

Or, how could you understand the current standing of world without analyse deeply the cultural ,legal social and scientific history of Europe ?
 

horse

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Trump just stated that there would be no Ticktock deal unless America has 100% control of Ticktock.

Like I said just let Ticktock die. There is no point negotiating with Trump and his team. China keeps on looking for various win-win deals based on fairness and mutual respect.

But know that America does not respect China As it’s equal. There will be no win-win deals. Since 2018 Trump has public stated that in any deal with China, America must benefit more. There will be no fair deals.
I think Chinese like Trump in a way, because he is such a drama queen. The guy is hilarious and entertaining.

There is a TikTok-Oracle-Walmart deal. All three will benefit hugely.

If Trump axes that, then no one gets anything.

So in Trump world, nothing for American companies is preferable to something for American companies.

Usually such people are thought of as fools, but the Chinese are polite and will give Trump credit for being entertaining.

The way the deal is structured now, kind of obvious that is the only way CCP will not intervene.

The Trump administration is very unusual that way. It goes out of its way to hurt American companies, they deliberately hurt American interests.

But, that is consistent with Fascism, the state decides what is good or bad in business decisions. Hehe.

:D
 

Xsizor

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Prime example of biased note : D

How could you see the differences without having understanding of the wide array of European cultures?

: D

Or, how could you understand the current standing of world without analyse deeply the cultural ,legal social and scientific history of Europe ?
He is right though. Europe isn't Unique in the diversity Front. Take India or Africa for example. A similar sized landmass ( 23 millions sq km after a cursory google search) over central Africa or India or Middle East will yeild a similar diversity palette.

Also,

The real question is leveraging the diversity. I give Europe points for that ( due to its already developed Western part driving the strength) however, weaknesses lie inherent in the Nature of European Union and language barrier.

Africa is in a worse position. It is economically backward so cannot do much to leverage the diversity.
India is comparatively better. Still economics limit the rewards of diversity.

China is an outlier. It is as diverse as any other but it does not get to ( intend to) hold that diversity and make it thrive for leveraging it for Growth. It is not that it doesn't want to. It is that it does need to. That may not be the case when services and creative inputs drive the economy in the future.

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One thing that makes European Union unique . It is open enough to have free flow of ideas yet closed enough to make sure the diversity remains intact ( Countries and borders).
 
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horse

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The Trump administration is very unusual that way. It goes out of its way to hurt American companies, they deliberately hurt American interests.

But, that is consistent with Fascism, the state decides what is good or bad in business decisions. Hehe.
But ...

Some American companies such as Intel and AMD are given waivers to circumvent the law with the restrictions against Huawei dealings. Intel and AMD continue to sell their wares to Huawei.

They punish Huawei, and continue to do business with Huawei.

That makes total sense in Trump world.

So which US companies are favoured by the Trump administration and which ones are not?

Kind of like textbook Fascism ... lol ...

:p
 

Xsizor

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But ...

Some American companies such as Intel and AMD are given waivers to circumvent the law with the restrictions against Huawei dealings. Intel and AMD continue to sell their wares to Huawei.

They punish Huawei, and continue to do business with Huawei.

That makes total sense in Trump world.

So which US companies are favoured by the Trump administration and which ones are not?

Kind of like textbook Fascism ... lol ...

:p
No use complaining ( assuming that was what you were doing).
No one is stopping China from developing its own Intel or AMD or Nvidia.
US simply has the leverage here. (But it is fast eroding).
It depends on whether Chinese STEM graduate leaders are risk takers.
I've a gut feeling that they are not. It requires maverick material. It requires Eisenhowerian Vision, Khrushevian aggression and Maoist Resolve.
 

siegecrossbow

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Trump just stated that there would be no Ticktock deal unless America has 100% control of Ticktock.

Like I said just let Ticktock die. There is no point negotiating with Trump and his team. China keeps on looking for various win-win deals based on fairness and mutual respect.

But know that America does not respect China As it’s equal. There will be no win-win deals. Since 2018 Trump has public stated that in any deal with China, America must benefit more. There will be no fair deals.
Wow we already reached the first flip flop of the week!
 

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