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TikTok: Trump questions Oracle deal if ByteDance keeps stake
President warns any agreement to continue operating in US must be ‘100% as far as national security is concerned’

Reuters

Donald Trump has questioned plans by the Chinese tech firm ByteDance to keep a majority stake in TikTok’s US operations as part of a
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“Conceptually I can tell you that I don’t like that,” Trump told a news conference when asked about a reported proposal to give Oracle only a minority share. “I’m not prepared to sign off on anything. They’re going to be reporting to me tomorrow morning and I’ll let you know.”

Trump said he would be briefed on Thursday about a proposal that calls for Oracle to become a “trusted technology provider” for TikTok’s American operations, but he did not favour the idea of having the Chinese firm retain control.

“It has to be 100% as far as national security is concerned,” Trump said. “I have to see the deal.”

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Also, lol


Also, lol

The president also expressed surprise that Washington could not demand payment from the companies in exchange for approving any agreement. “Amazingly I find that you’re not allowed to do that,” he said. “What kind of a thing is this?”

Wow. Isn't that called bribing? The rules don't change even if you got all the power of a president.
 

weig2000

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First the US, then Taiwan, then South Korea and Japan, now even Chinese chipmakers are teaming up against Huawei. Behold, the power of the United States.

Meanwhile, TSMC, MediaTek, Samsung, Hynix and, indeed, SMIC are applying to Commerce for licensing to continue to supply and work with Huawei.

These companies are merely "complying" with the US export control, not against Huawei, much less "teaming up against Huawei.
 

gadgetcool5

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HI gadgetcool5,

Huawei will be the VANGUARD of CCP IC development. Lets wait, if Huawei succeed all others will follow, its obvious for CHINA, Huawei is too big and too important to fail.

Huawei has already failed and so has China.

China is being cut out of the global market and global supply chains controlled by the US.

Every country is at the mercy of the US. Not only China.

Tell me, was the Chinese economy booming during the autarky era of Mao Zedong in the 1970s? Was China rich then? Was China booming during the Qing Dynasty in the 1800s?

China should seek better relations with the US and the world.

When China seeks better relations, as under Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Zemin, and Hu Jintao, it will succeed tremendously. It will become the world's largest economy and the world's greatest power.

But when China turns it back on the world and starts picking a fight with everyone, especially the US, it will fail, as it did during the isolation era of Qing Dynasty and the Cultural Revolution.

The lesson of hundreds of years of Chinese modern history has never wavered for a moment.

Isolation and fighting is failure. But reform and opening up is success.

No matter what path China follows this iron law will never change. Currently under Xi Jinping China is returning to the path of Mao Zedong and the Qing Dynasty, isolation and fighting. Therefore, China will enter a new era of failure and stagnation.

If China changes course again, its fortunes will change.
 

gadgetcool5

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Meanwhile, TSMC, MediaTek, Samsung, Hynix and, indeed, SMIC are applying to Commerce for licensing to continue to supply and work with Huawei.

These companies are merely "complying" with the US export control, not against Huawei, much less "teaming up against Huawei.

And they will be refused. And when they are refused, they will comply. If they really sided with Huawei, they would say to hell with US suppliers, we will develop our own production lines without US equipment. But they will not do this. Instead, they will replace their sales to Huawei with sales to Apple, Intel, Google, and other US companies. Plus Taiwanese companies. Watch what they do, not what they say. Just watch.
 

Weaasel

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CarlZha predicted for SMIC in August


And he was right

So i trust him when he says that
Ironically the most dangerous moment will be if Trump loses (because he will have nothing to lose) and Biden wins, people like Pompeo, Matthew Pottinger and Peter Navarro will push him to declare an all-out tech war on China, let's not forget that even if Trump loses, he will have to stay another 3 months until January during the transition period, this transition period will be the most dangerous.

On the contrary, if he wins, he will think of the benefit of phase 2 of the deal.

The Trump Administration is certainly strongly considering doing everything that Carl Zha mentioned. The likes of Peter Navarro and Mike Pompeo would like that.
 

machupicu

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Meanwhile, TSMC, MediaTek, Samsung, Hynix and, indeed, SMIC are applying to Commerce for licensing to continue to supply and work with Huawei.

These companies are merely "complying" with the US export control, not against Huawei, much less "teaming up against Huawei.
They won't get permission. You missed the reasons why trump/Ross put the rules in the first place. They said the original May rule was useless because Huawei was able to buy from MediaTek ,so they tighten the screw now by forbidding others to sell to Huawei. To then give permission is to circumvent your own rules is rather bizarre
 
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