New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

Michael90

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those automakers need to die if they cannot compete. There is no jeopardizing at all. What are you even talking about? Can you show what % of Chinese automakers are not profitable?
So you mean the Chinese government worries about this continuous race to the bottom price wars is unfounded?
I don't think so. I believe the Chinese government and the Chinese car makers association which in the arrive is said to have raised similar concerns know better than most of us on here, no?
Or maybe there are some special interests groups in these government bodies who are trying to protect some of interests in those other carmakers ?
 
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chlosy

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Looking forward to the Maextro version for the rich. The S800, looks like for the super rich :)
Amazing... how long did the Chinese car industry take to challenge the Maybach?
 

Wrought

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Two-wheelers are a testing ground for sodium batteries. Lots of potential, but industry still needs to scale up and lower costs.

To test the waters, in 2024 Yadea began a pilot programme with 150,000 food delivery couriers working in Shenzhen, a mega city of 17.8 million people in southern China, reported
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. The goal was to enable them to hand in a spent Yadea sodium-ion batteries at its partners' battery-swapping stations in exchange for a fully charged one within 30 seconds,
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Yadea and other companies, such as battery-swapping firm Dudu Huandian, have grown so rapidly in Shenzhen the city now
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". It aims to install 20,000 charging or swapping pods for various types of batteries for electric scooters in 2025, and 50,000 by 2027, according to
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, a trade body that is
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the Shenzhen government to promote battery swapping. The city – which already has a "
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" – will build a vast network of battery swapping facilities to enable residents to find a station every five minutes,
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Yadea is not alone in its sodium push. Another Chinese scooter manufacturer, Tailg,
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. FinDreams, the battery arm of EV major BYD, is building a plant in east China's Xuzhou to make sodium batteries in partnership with Huaihai Group, a manufacturer of two and three-wheelers, according to
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Although lead-acid batteries will continue to dominate this industry, the market share of sodium-ion batteries
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rapidly over the next five years. By 2030, 15% of China's electric scooters will be powered by them, compared to 0.04% in 2023, according to an
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by the Shenzhen-based Starting Point Research Institute, which assesses China's battery industry.

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tphuang

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So you mean the Chinese government worries about this continuous race to the bottom price wars is unfounded?
I don't think so. I believe the Chinese government and the Chinese car makers association which in the arrive is said to have raised similar concerns know better than most of us on here, no?
Or maybe there are some special interests groups in these government bodies who are trying to protect some of interests in those other carmakers ?

this is just legacy automakers complaining in China. Do you have an idea how much legacy foreign JVs are discounting to keep their sales up? Why should Chinese customers keep propping up VW and Toyota?

It's so funny to see Geely offer massively low prices to attract sales and then complain that BYD is doing the same. It's just automakers complaining that they can't compete.
 

sndef888

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So it seems Changan Dongfeng merger has been paused

Apparently Changan will be reorganised and its status elevated (in terms of SOEs)
 
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