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Its isn't usually the President's job to know the processes. There are administrative machinery to figure out the processes.
Yeah but it's the president's job to adjudicate when NSC principals can't agree. Trump couldn't do that, Biden doesn't want to, but the next GOP president will.
And if the US is just getting started, then China is too.
Nope. America's been relaxing for the past 30 years while China has been throwing all it has and what has it got to show for it? A economy that depends on US generosity and is still only pitifully 70% of US size with 4x the population
The rest of your paragraph is amusing.
Where you typing down your wet dream?

" US will do this and that and China's economy will melt down like a heap of trash."
Ha.
No, it's an objective projection
 
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Oh my goodness, where to start with so much wrong?

You think all those cards magically only appeared now? If they were so super duper, you think Trumpy Trump would have held back from playing them?
Trump was halfway cooperative with China and only really started with the provocations in 2018. Plus, Trump didn't know process. The next GOP admin will be hostile from Day 1 and have the process down hard.
SWIFT means nothing if it’s not fit for purpose, and the entire reason for the world using SWIFT will be made null and void if economies suddenly couldn’t trade with their biggest trading partner, not to mention the irreparable reputational damage that will cause. Would you still want to use the same bank if it suddenly decided it didn’t want you to buy from the biggest shop in town?
Nope, all it is is a tool for the US to force other countries not to trade with China
America playing the SWIFT card will create the mother of all incentives for the entire world to adapt a parallel system because the rest of the world will not magically not need to trade with China just because America threw its dumdum out the pram.
Not happening, they don't have another choice
In the short term, China can agree bilateral currency swaps almost overnight with all affected nations to facilitate trade without needing to change anything fundamental, and in the medium run, the Europeans will develop a SWIFT alternative if China doesn’t get there first. Nothing changes for China and the rest of the world, but suddenly America has isolated itself further and can kiss its long arm legal BS goodbye. If you really are a lawyer as you claim, then you should know how much extortion money that will cost the US justice department alone.
The US will just kick them out of SWIFT lol.
You forget Japan’s economy going down the toilet also reduced aggregate demand for America’s products and reduces Japanese defence spending. Turning net security contributor into a net burden. Just see how much good NK is as an ally before you get too invested in remaking Japan in its image
US exports to Japan are pitiful and less than China's exports to Japan. China is hurt more and it completely knocks Japan out of the competition and as well as cancelling a source of China's high-tech products. The US absolutely should do it.
You do realise app and software developers can and do release their products across different OS right? Apple and Android is just the current duopoly, there is nothing stopping a third, Chinese OS alternative.

Then it’s a competition of handset quality and features, and America lost that fight several phone generations back.

Again, the consumers will get what they want, America creating artificial barriers to stop them will only work in the very short term while creating a lot of resentment. Huawei is already making massive headway with its own OS, any American blanket ban will only serve to unite all Chinese handset makers behind that endeavour and supercharging its development.
Not if the US will sanction them and ban them from the US/EU/JP/KR
So, the US is going to sanction EU companies for doing normal business with China? Good luck fighting economic wars with everyone.
Yep. The Trump admin fought economic wars with everyone and beat *EVERYONE*
 

Xizor

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Yeah but it's the president's job to adjudicate when NSC principals can't agree. Trump couldn't do that, Biden doesn't want to, but the next GOP president will.

Nope. America's been relaxing for the past 30 years while China has been throwing all it has and what has it got to show for it? A economy that depends on US generosity and is still only pitifully 70% of US size with 4x the population

Trump couldn't? Biden doesn't want to?

Sounds like you desperately want to believe US has been pulling punches out of some generosity towards China. The rhetoric betrays this though.

America hasn't been relaxing, it spent the past 30 years going on military adventures overseas. China hasn't been throwing anything at US but focusing on itself. If this wasn't the case then China wouldn't be in the present state making US sweat.

75% of US size in dollars while having a larger economy in PPP.
 

liamban

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The mods might want to keep him around in order to act as a counterweight to the overwhelming pro-China stance on this forum and thus avoiding the forming of an echo-chamber (already happened? Not sure, I would say no)

I agree that he has some valid arguments and I also agree that he is a troll

By the way, you might want to give another chance to gadget, it seems he has changed his ways and he is far more rational and normal now.


How about..opening a thread that only banned accounts can post in and no where else. Would be entertaining to watch an online rubber room.

As for the "Huston lawyers", "German scholars", "Chartered engineers" or Mongolian Admirals this guy might give a clue as to what's going on between their ears.

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"He refused to accept that the papers were his for two reasons. The first reason was that the papers listed him as Iranian, but he wanted to be British. Second, and more peculiar is that he wanted the documents to show his preferred name of “Sir Alfred Mehran” as opposed to his real name Mehran Karimi Nasseri. "

"His lawyer felt that Sir Alfred lost his grip on reality. He was granted residency in both France and Belgium but refused to accept it since they listed his birthplace as Iran and had his real name. When asked if he finally wanted to leave the airport and go home to look for his mother in Scotland, Sir Alfred simply stated, “I’m already home.”


"This led to frustration among some of his closest benefactors, the airport doctor and his lawyer. Many speculated that he was so accustomed to his fame and attention that he feared he would lose it if left the airport. If his papers, granted residency, and hundreds of thousands of dollars weren’t enough to make him leave the airport it was unclear what would."
 
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