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emblem21

Major
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This place is free for me to use and it prob does take effort to mod discussions if you have a busy personal life so I try not to put too much pressure on the mods. The core effort has always been the military portion of the forum and its hard to make a judgement on polticial related discussion. The sleepy guy has some valid arguements that can be maturely discuss but he is definitly here to troll and rile up people. I think it will become a problem for the mods if the forum is brigade by trolls though(kinda surprise it has not happen).

I ignorelist the gadget and my experience since has been much better lol, try it if you had not!
Very well then, I guess I did lose a bit of cool there, but the sheer lack of logic of some of these posts is quite infuriating. I did notice a lot less problems when I ignored him
 

BoraTas

Major
Registered Member
This post will do fine. It has to be bookmarked so that others may know the depth of your thought process.If the US could use all the cards you mentioned without much hurt to itself then it'd have already used it.

Using the SWIFT card mean China switches on its own transfer system.

Using Japan card mean trade with China ( Japan's biggest trading partner) closes down japanese business operating in China.

The software/OS/App card is in the process of getting torn. It'll take some years.

US isn't the only country with Money. Money will pour from Middle East, Europe and other parts of the world. If anything, investors in US will find ways to circumvent the ban on investments.
The SWIFT is just a payment system that can easily be replaced. Commercial success doesn't mean you can isolate the world's largest trader from the rest of the world. There is no SWIFT card. None at all. How many days would pass until 130+ countries who have China as their largest trade partner adopt an alternative system?
 

9dashline

Captain
Registered Member
Econometric, environmetnal and principal-component analysis says what now?
Prior forecasting history means absoultely nothing
US "real" inflation this year is closer to 25% (see shadowstats and chapwoods analysis) and heck for my basket of stuff that I buy, many things went up 300%+ !
America printing about 50% of all dollars in its ENTIRE history of 200+ years in the last year or two alone! This is not sustaintainble and the wreckoning is about to cometh....

The minimum wage of the slave class in America hasn't been re-upped from its pathetic $7.25 since 2009.....

You tell me how is the US economy stronger than ever? Maybe for the 1%.... but that is just resource consolidation at the expense of hallowing out and cannalbalization of the rest of America.... This is not a sign of health dude
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
This place is free for me to use and it prob does take effort to mod discussions if you have a busy personal life so I try not to put too much pressure on the mods. The core effort has always been the military portion of the forum and its hard to make a judgement on polticial related discussion. The sleepy guy has some valid arguements that can be maturely discuss but he is definitly here to troll and rile up people. I think it will become a problem for the mods if the forum is brigade by trolls though(kinda surprise it has not happen).

I ignorelist the gadget and my experience since has been much better lol, try it if you had not!
The mods might want to keep him around in order to act as a counterweight to the overwhelming pro-China stance on this forum and thus avoiding the forming of an echo-chamber (already happened? Not sure, I would say no)

I agree that he has some valid arguments and I also agree that he is a troll

By the way, you might want to give another chance to gadget, it seems he has changed his ways and he is far more rational and normal now.
 
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US "real" inflation this year is closer to 25% (see shadowstats and chapwoods analysis) and heck for my basket of stuff that I buy, many things went up 300%+ !
Wrong. Shadowstats justs adds a constant to CPI
America printing about 50% of all dollars in its ENTIRE history of 200+ years in the last year or two alone! This is not sustaintainble and the wreckoning is about to cometh....
Nope, money printing is free when the economy is below capacity
The minimum wage of the slave class in America hasn't been re-upped from its pathetic $7.25 since 2009.....
So what? The upper class produces technology, military & finance that gives the US its coercive power
You tell me how is the US economy stronger than ever? Maybe for the 1%.... but that is just resource consolidation at the expense of hallowing out and cannalbalization of the rest of America.... This is not a sign of health dude
Huawei collapsed based on a few letters in the Federal Register. Consider that
 
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The SWIFT is just a payment system that can easily be replaced. Commercial success doesn't mean you can isolate the world's largest trader from the rest of the world. There is no SWIFT card. None at all. How many days would pass until 130+ countries who have China as their largest trade partner adopt an alternative system?
SWIFT is a metaphor for USD payments/clearing since international trade is settled in dollars as well as that all banks have correspondent accounts at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. All the US needs to do is to threaten any country's access to the United States Dollar and their central & commercial bank's access to the United States Dollar/Federal Reserve Bank of New York and then they shut up and comply with the United States, just like what Iraq did.
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Xizor

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Nope, the only reason why the US hasn't used them is because the US has a policy process that is slow and Biden is dovish but obviously, the US wiill implement all of it under the next GOP president that is mildly hawkish *AND* has a consistent NSC process to work through

China can't. China runs current account surpluses and China doesn't have an open capital account

That's a win for the United States because Japan's economy crashing pushes Japan towards the United States and reduces aggregate demand for China's product

Yep. You shock it and you fuck up millions of Chinese developers for years and years and afterwards, they have maybe a 30% market share? Sounds beautiful

Nope. Secondary sanctions will end all of that really quickly. Plus, no one has liquidity in capital markets like the United States
US doesn't have a policy that is slow. Wherever there is bipartisan support, policies and changes to them happen fast.

China Can. China finds the current systems good enough. US using SWIFT as a weapon will force China to adopt changes however harsh it may. And US will only lose later.

Its not a Win for US if Japan struggles. US can't replace and provide an alternative for Chinese market.

30% Market share is still very impressive. Every single one of your cards never improve US standing and only gives China immunity in the future.
 

9dashline

Captain
Registered Member
Wrong. Shadowstats justs adds a constant to CPI

Nope, money printing is free when the economy is below capacity

So what? The upper class produces technology, military & finance that gives the US its coercive power

Huawei collapsed based on a few letters in the Federal Register. Consider that
You keep saying Huawei collapsed ..... The damage US did to Huawei as part and parcel of its opening salvos of the tech war does not come without a price, this price is the possible bifurcation of the world (at least technologically and standards etc) but if America + vassals are not able to contain China tech ascension (looks increasingly more doubtful by the day) then US will have dug its own graveyard.... China was spending more money importing chips than oil and in the age of AI and the 4th industrial revolution, IC/semiconductors are the new oil and America was planning on continuing the petrodollar hegemony by making its control of semiconductor supply chain the new digital OPEC.... sooner or later China as the rising hegemon cannot expect to fully displace the declining power without becoming self sufficient in all areas of technology including the most critical ones such as high end chip fabs etc etc -- Huawei and China was caught offguard by the speed of which America executed this turn at what it perceived to be a point of inflection but all in all, there was perhaps no better time for China to become semiconductor self sufficient than now... Huawei may have died on the cross (way overexaggerated) for the sins of mankind and the lack of paranoia of the Chinese race/species but in the overall this was price well paid to wake up the dragon and it was by all means a Sputnik moment for the entire Chinese civilization that America was going for the throat...

Keep eye on this area, the true price America will pay for the vengeance on Huawei will be paid out over the next coming decades...
 

emblem21

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Registered Member
You wanna be the first in line to "defend" american hegemony? Go ahead sign up for the army, and btw not a single person that matters and sane in the us military is looking forward with excitement for a conflict with China
Btw guys @Overbom Is right, he is obviously a troll, don't feed the troll, just ignore
Spread this around, its not a problem to stand up for ones country but it is a big problem for people to support hegemony and imperialism simply if it can generate some laughs or simply to be a troll. Lets make this happen because it is clear that no one is going to do anything to him so to all members that value there sanity, stop responding to him
 
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