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Santamaria

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All the prosperous areas in the world are in that dry Mideast. Europe got lucky until now but if that New Europe got created than you wont like Europe again. It is Arabs that behind Africa summit. Guess who the Arab leader that is Africa summits?
It does not matter if they dont have power now. this what that Tatar Minister that is in charge of construction is going to do and this what Putin want Azeri to get involved. (which itself is Arabs). you are deeply mistaken about alot of things that i dont want spend time to correct you. you wont find any Iranian , Armenian or anyone else in this FIFA 2018 that the real guests dont want near them.

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1 - Mideast more developed? Which industry there is in the mideast?

2 - Is not only Europe. All civilisation surge in mild weather. China, India, Mesopotamia, Mediterranean culture, Mesoamérica.
Nowadays the more developed regions are China, US, EU, Japan amd European Russia. All of them have relatively mild weather. Not extreme.

3 -40 degrees of Yakusk and other Siberian areas are simply almost in space levels of hardness for civilisation.

4 - You have deluded fantasies about the importance of Arabs. Arabs have their place in the world, but their power is maybe 5% of what you attributed to them.
 

AndrewS

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Rozogin does not hold any current position at goverment or state level. Whatever he proposes is an individual idea. Shoigu has been placed in a mostly symbolic position while his old deparment is being clean up. It is not like Patrushev proposing this.

Cities represent that connectivity infrastructure. Weather is irrelevant as long as productive things are done -> yeah, sure. Thats why all prosperous places in the world are in areas with relatively mild weather. I think you cant even imagine how harsh is Siberian weather even in the south.

Just to add to the climate aspect.

1. The lowest cost form of transport is by sea.
So if you have a climate with harsh winters, the ports are blocked by ice and you don't have any seaborne shipping.

Sure, you can get around this with icebreakers, but it does mean seaborne transport is more expensive for that location

2. If you have harsh winters, you have to spend a lot of energy on heating in the winter, otherwise you freeze. Whilst that may work if you're at least middle-income, what if you're still a low-income country? The cost of heating might be higher than the average wage.
 

pmc

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1 - Mideast more developed? Which industry there is in the mideast?
yes its is more developed on infrastructure it counts. Thats why they can afford so much Wide Body Planes and every one knocking on there door. Development is much more than putting factories. Israel does not have much factories either nor Jews work in factories.
2 - Is not only Europe. All civilisation surge in mild weather. China, India, Mesopotamia, Mediterranean culture, Mesoamérica.
Nowadays the more developed regions are China, US, EU, Japan amd European Russia. All of them have relatively mild weather. Not extreme.
yes but its only US with its alliance with Arabs that is dominant power. Arabs has not chosen side yet but if they fully put itself with US than you will find out how much the other powers with so called mild weather can survive. Japan Knows It, Korea Knows , India Knows it and if some one not understand this part they are into rude awakening. I Just dont post on Ukraine otherwise you will get surprised.
3 -40 degrees of Yakusk and other Siberian areas are simply almost in space levels of hardness for civilisation.

4 - You have deluded fantasies about the importance of Arabs. Arabs have their place in the world, but their power is maybe 5% of what you attributed to them.
yes. They are building vehicles and aviation that is sustainable for this weather. you dont need year end economic activity either.
North to South is always about Arabs. but how Far North.
“If you look at the composition of the participants, we have all the countries of the Persian Gulf, the entire Arab world was represented here. And everyone’s number one question was: when will we start operating the North-South corridor, what actions need to be taken in order to speed up this project as much as possible. Therefore, everyone believes in this project; it is an alternative to the Suez Canal,” said Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation Marat Khusnullin.



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TV7-117V helicopter engines withstood a record flight at temperatures down​

to minus 40​

05/17/2024
Mi-38 helicopters with TV7-117V engines, which in March of this year made a record flight from Kazan to Magadan with a length of about 6.5 thousand km, endured extremely low temperatures of minus 40 degrees. This was reported to TASS by the press service of UEC-Klimov (part of the United Engine Corporation of the Rostec state corporation).
 

CMP

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Just to add to the climate aspect.

1. The lowest cost form of transport is by sea.
So if you have a climate with harsh winters, the ports are blocked by ice and you don't have any seaborne shipping.

Sure, you can get around this with icebreakers, but it does mean seaborne transport is more expensive for that location

2. If you have harsh winters, you have to spend a lot of energy on heating in the winter, otherwise you freeze. Whilst that may work if you're at least middle-income, what if you're still a low-income country? The cost of heating might be higher than the average wage.
In countries/regions where cost of heating is high relative to income, people can cut and store their own firewood to prepare for winter. In countries/regions where that is not an option, coal is always cheap. In cases where even that is too expensive, then you are looking at the Indian scenario. Burn shit. You and your family can provide your own stock or rely on the fecal output of farm animals if you are part of the rural population.
 

taxiya

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I completely agree with this. Both China and Russia are friends because of convenience and I've mentioned this here before. At the end of the day Russians are Europeans and everything being equal, they'll pick Europe over China.
Are you really from Africa and being a black person? What you are saying is exactly what racism is defined "acting on/treating people based on ethnicity over other quality". Yes, I know your are accusing Russian to be racist, but I believe your accusation is reflection of yourself, in the very same way as west accusing China being neo-colonist in Africa which you tried to propagate here multiple times.
 

coolgod

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Are you really from Africa and being a black person? What you are saying is exactly what racism is defined "acting on/treating people based on ethnicity over other quality". Yes, I know your are accusing Russian to be racist, but I believe your accusation is reflection of yourself, in the very same way as west accusing China being neo-colonist in Africa which you tried to propagate here multiple times.
That guy is obviously not from Africa and not black. Imagine someone on SDF called YellowChinese, do you think they are Chinese?
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Actually, it's quite impressive that despite Han conquest of Korea, Tang conquest of Goguryeo, Yuan conquest of Goryeo, Qing domination of Joseon, and millennia of vassalage under various dynasties that North Korea continues to be an treaty ally of China. Hey, if North Korea can ignore millennials of Chinese domination and still be friends (even allies), then I am sure Russia and China can move behind the past history into good if not great relationship. Heck, Japan got nuked by US and they are best buddies, UK was the former colonial master of US and they are best buddies. It also makes me think India-China animosity is quite interesting since its a vestige of British colonial legacy, not rooted in any tangible historical animosity.
I believe the China Korea relationship is one of tutelage and assistance. It is undisputed that Ming and Qing have helped Korea greatly against Japanese aggression and even early Korean language was given writing by Chinese.
I am pretty glad that the Hispanic world seems to be very positive toward China even under heavy anglosaxon media pressure. Even Spain is the less sinophobe in the European Union.

China rising to the primal superpower stage is really the only hope for Hispanic America to get rid of the Monroe Doctrine that have been fucking them 200 years
Spanish Empire was broken up by you know who. For all the talk of how Spanish conquistador were the most brutal colonizers, I must note that Spain made Nahuatl an official language of Mexico and Quecha an official language of Peru. They also did not allow Native Americans to be enslaved. Some other country forced Native Americans to speak English and enslaved them in "residency schools" with mass graves.
 
Outer Mongolia was lost because of both Mongolia and the Soviet Union. Both were culprits. Yet we only see Russia blamed here, never Mongolia.

Indeed, SDF complains about lost land to Russia roughly 100 times more than lost land to Mongolia, even though Mongolia occupies far more Qing territory than Russia today. I find that really strange.

If people are going to moan about lost territory, they should direct their grumbling towards the country today which holds the most lost territory. That's not Russia.

Outer Mongolia gained independence because of Russian and later Soviet involvement. Plain and simple. Sure, some Mongolians were involved, but the fact stands that without Russian/Soviet involvement, Mongolia would not have been independent. The issue is not just about lands that were lost, the Russians/Soviets also caused mass suffering and deaths in inner Manchuria. From the Russo-Japanese War to the Warlord Era to the "Liberation" at the end of WW2, countless Chinese suffered/died due to Russian/Soviet actions. But as Imperial Russia, the Soviet Union, and Qing China all no longer exist, history shouldn't preclude cooperation between the Russian Federation and the PRC. But neither should history be whitewashed/forgotten just because of the current strategic partnership. The history of the Century of Humiliation should never be forgotten, and Chinese are pragmatic and intelligent enough to both remember the real history and see the importance of a mutually beneficial partnership with the Russian Federation.

I think you are being too harsh on Russia. When China was weak, the USSR (Russia) lent China a helping hand. I know that Sino-Soviet relations were not good. Nonetheless, the USSR helped China build a thermonuclear weapon. China learned how to build aircraft carriers by purchasing and studying a Soviet aircraft carrier. Russian engines powered most Chinese warplanes until recently. The Chinese space program owes a lot to the Soviet space program.

The carrier, as well as the Su-33 prototype which aided the development of the J-15 came from Ukraine. Also, Ukrainians provided massive assistance to the Chinese aerospace and space industries. By that logic, should China be siding with the Ukrainians? The USSR helped China for a short period of time from 1949-1962 when the interests of the two countries aligned. The Germans also helped China for a decade prior to WW2 and the West helped China for about a decade towards the end of the Cold War, also because interests aligned. China doesn't owe anything to any of those nations/blocs.

If the USSR fell to the Germans during WW2, there is a good chance that most of us would be third-class inhabitants of the Empire of Japan. More than twenty million Soviet citizens died during WW2. We should not forget that we are beneficiaries of their sacrifice. If the USSR did not exist, the US would've used nuclear weapons to attack China during the Korean War.

Imperial Japan could never have won. By the time the USSR pillaged liberated Manchuria from the emaciated remains of the Kwantung army in 1949, Japan was losing ground in all fronts across China and the Nationalists were already planning their final offensive. More than 20 million Chinese also died during WW2. The Soviet sacrifices were for the survival of their own nation, against the Germans, nothing to do with China's war against Japan. The US/UK contributed far more in the fight against Japan than the USSR ever did, and even their contribution is only a drop in the bucket when compared to the Chinese war effort. If the USSR didn't exist, there would not have been a Korean war in the first place. The USSR had an equal stake as China in the Korean war, yet it was only Chinese that paid in blood.

Russia is not a perfect country, but its existence has been beneficial for China. China benefitted from Russia's past strength. It also suffered, but not as much. It's not even close. Now that China is strong, it should support Russia.

No. Historically, China suffered far more than benefited from Russia. China should support Russia because partnership today benefits both countries. Specifically, China should support Russia because supporting Russia is good for China. Past history (both the good and the bad) should have no impact whatsoever on the strategic calculus. Sino-Russian partnership has the potential to be mutually beneficial for a long period of time, and it would be in China's interest to focus on building lasting ties that will persist far into the future. But there should be no illusion of any form of, "forever brotherhood," and China should hedge against a divergence of interests between Russia and China. Again, the Sino-Soviet friendship lasted barely a decade before the PRC and USSR became strategic adversaries.
 

_killuminati_

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They can greatly manipulate the results based in whom they ask, and how they do their questions.
Right. I wouldn't be surprised if this survey was conducted on the Iranian diaspora in the West since these people are an entirely different breed than the common man in Iran. The vast majority of Iranis living in the West are vehemently anti-Islam, anti-1979 Revolution, pro-US, and pro-Shah. Their political opinions are not much different than the odd American. While in Iran (a conservative, religious country), as well as the entire middleast, everybody hates the US (except Kurds).

You cannot barge into a foreign country with guns, occupy it by force, chop it up into pieces, kills uncountable locals, destroy culture, and then expect the locals to view you with favor. That is what middleast as a whole (including Iran) suffered at the hands of not only the West but also Russia.

The Kurd secession movements in northwest Iran had a Russian hand in it. The Central Asian countries (Tajik, Afghan, Uzbek, Azerbaijan) had Persian influence for centuries (or maybe even millenia), with Persian being a major local language until USSR invaded it down to Afghanistan. Afghanistan's primary language is still (a dialect of) Persian, called Dari. Tajik language of Tajikistan is a dialect of Persian. Azerbaijan and Dagestan's Tat are Persian dialects. Azerbaijan itself was a territory of Iran until the Russian invasion.

So, they have a reason to be salty against Russia, despite their interests aligning today.

yes but its only US with its alliance with Arabs that is dominant power. Arabs has not chosen side yet but if they fully put itself with US than you will find out
When UK/US stabbed the Arabs in the heart by creating an apartheid that stole the 3rd most holiest site of Muslims which was formerly a possession of the Sharifs of Mecca for a 1,000+ years, and ethnically cleansed the local Arab population while the Arabs kept losing land and wars to the apartheid.. was that Arabic soft power or Arabic system failure?
 
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