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Torquemada

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plawolf said:
Oh sweet summer child. You are being incredibly naive in thinking its just a funny coincidence that illegal migration increased just before fascism started to rise.

Maybe you should read up on confessions by the OG German Nazi fascists about how easy it was for them to get ordinary people to loudly applaud and demand their fascist policies by convincing them that their way of life and their own safety were being threatened and attacked by the ‘other’.

Who owns and controls all the media you consume in Europe?

When the boats first started to arrive, which media organisations ran heart wrenching stories about poor migrants drowning en mass and the ‘heartless’ European coast guards who didn’t help them to fire up public opinion against defending your boarders?

The same MSM that brought to light the large number of migrant deaths also highlights the extra threats and dangers to women and children making the crossings, so is it any wonder fewer women and children then were risking those crossings leading to increased single males coming across hoping to secure funds and status to bring their dependent across legally later?

Now, after years and years of barely checked flooding of illegal migrants with minimal efforts made to give them any path to legally integrate, who would have thought crime by illegal migrants would be increasing?

And who could have foreseen that increased crimes by migrants would make it easier for fascists to become mainstream again and gain power?

All of this was no only foreseeable, it was basically inevitable once you made it so easy for rich individuals to own and control mainstream media without limitations or any sort of oversight. All it would take is a small number of sufficiently driven and wealthy individuals to use control of the media to get whole countries and societies to flip to fascism using decades old Nazi playbooks. Frankly, it was only blind luck that this didn’t happen earlier.
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Do you know who controls the media in Europe, the US, and China?

The government in power. And they weren't exactly "fascists," quite the opposite.

Attributing to a conspiracy what can only be explained by government incompetence is typical of uncontrolled emotionalism.

China’s progress is not the result of a conspiracy to undermine the West, but the outcome of strategic investments in technology education through top-tier universities, the creation of an efficient supply chain, and a stable, reliable environment. I’m tired of seeing conspiracy theories everywhere, when in reality it all comes down to the competence of the ruling elites. In Europe, management is often disastrous, while in China, it is outstanding. A century ago, the situation was exactly the opposite
 
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Puss in Boots said:
I think there must be some misunderstanding here. China basically doesn't care whether Europe is left or right. China just hopes that all governments can handle international relations pragmatically. It just so happens that the right wing in Europe is relatively pragmatic right now. Although many of their ideas are very radical and unfriendly, this group of people knows how to face reality.
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Working to improve society and the country is not something I consider right-wing or left-wing. What China is doing today, for many progressives, is seen as far-right. I see it simply as good management. Labeling everyone is outdated.
 
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Torquemada said:
The government in power. And they weren't exactly "fascists," quite the opposite.

Attributing to a conspiracy what can only be explained by government incompetence is typical of uncontrolled emotionalism.

China’s progress is not the result of a conspiracy to undermine the West, but the outcome of strategic investments in technology education through top-tier universities, the creation of an efficient supply chain, and a stable, reliable environment. I’m tired of seeing conspiracy theories everywhere, when in reality it all comes down to the competence of the ruling elites. In Europe, management is often disastrous, while in China, it is outstanding. A century ago, the situation was exactly the opposite
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The events in Europe are not caused by government incompetence, but rather by their fundamental disregard for the interests of the European people and their lack of motivation to improve their lives. Putting Xi Jinping in charge of any European country would not change anything.

My conclusion is that "the current democratic system has major flaws." Have any of you considered this issue?
 
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Puss in Boots said:
The events in Europe are not caused by government incompetence, but rather by their fundamental disregard for the interests of the European people and their lack of motivation to improve their lives. Putting Xi Jinping in charge of any European country would not change anything.

My conclusion is that "the current democratic system has major flaws." Have any of you considered this issue?
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It’s possible that the democratic system of holding elections every four years isn’t ideal—something worth questioning.


But one thing is certain: governments are incompetent. Take Nexperia a few weeks ago as a clear example. How could someone, supposedly educated and informed, expropriate a company when more than half of its production is in the owner’s country?


There are thousands of examples like this. In Spain, a ship full of immigrants was brought in so the government could show off its “progressiveness.” A week later, they were sleeping on the streets; two weeks later, some were stealing just to eat. And honestly, I don’t blame them. These are the people running the country.


No conspiracies, no foreign interference, no bribes—just sheer incompetence.
 
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Torquemada said:
It’s possible that the democratic system of holding elections every four years isn’t ideal—something worth questioning.


But one thing is certain: governments are incompetent. Take Nexperia a few weeks ago as a clear example. How could someone, supposedly educated and informed, expropriate a company when more than half of its production is in the owner’s country?


There are thousands of examples like this. In Spain, a ship full of immigrants was brought in so the government could show off its “progressiveness.” A week later, they were sleeping on the streets; two weeks later, some were stealing just to eat. And honestly, I don’t blame them. These are the people running the country.


No conspiracies, no foreign interference, no bribes—just sheer incompetence.
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The root cause of the problem is that your government doesn't care about your interests.

So how did they obtain power? Through so-called democratic elections! Doesn't that demonstrate a major flaw in the system?
 
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