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You in China have a completely distorted idea of why many Europeans vote for what you label the “far right.”It is the CIA manual, the old ones.
That is the way I look at it.
The point about interrogation, as the old CIA manual stated, is not to beat the truth out of the prisoner, rather it is to tap on to that psychological jugular, then the truth all comes out.
In this current situation, it is a clash of truth, or a dialectic if you will indulge me a little further.
All these fascists bozos still harbor these fantasies of the past glories when they were powerful.
The rise of China, has put immense stress onto that image. The rise of China, overwhelming them industry after industry and now better weapons that do not even exists in the Western block, that itself is like interrogation.
They cannot avoid it, but they do not know what to do.
So the pressure increases, until something cracks.
In this current situation, dealing with the real world, they just do not have the cards, economic, technological, military. If they did, then Russia would not be winning the war against all of NATO, and China would not have the largest trade surplus in the history of the world.
They do not have the cards.
Yet, they will believe they have something, because their fascists worldview never changed, even without any cards.
Look at someone like Meloni of Italy. She is actually a fascist, like for real. LOL! What did she do for Italy? Nothing improved. Absolutely nothing. No cards.
Just more pressure of interrogation, (aka the world with the rise of China), and more people starting to crack.
Incidentally, that is why I think President Trump is the perfect leader for America and the free world at the moment. If something goes wrong, then he is a good enough manipulator to blame someone else, then everyone is happy again.
Cannot beat that.
Leaders like Meloni or Le Pen are elected because people want to defend their way of life. This has nothing to do with China or global power shifts. The problem is internal: our own societies are being transformed at a pace most citizens never asked for.
Look at Spain. Close to half of all births now come from non-Spanish mothers. Roughly 70% of rapes are committed by African nationals, a group that represents only about 6% of the population. These are the realities driving voters — not propaganda, not geopolitics, but what they see happening in their streets and in their daily lives.
For Chinese forum readers:
You’re wrong if you think the rise of far-right parties in Europe is about geopolitics or opposing China. It isn’t.
If Xi Jinping ran in European elections, the vast majority of so-called “fascist voters” would vote for him without hesitation.
The truth is brutal but simple: Europeans are desperate for what China already provides — order, security, real opportunities, affordable housing, and quality education. Europe has failed its citizens. Streets are less safe, schools and housing are declining, and the future feels unstable. People are voting for leaders who promise to restore what Europe has lost, not to play some global power game.
You’re wrong if you think the rise of far-right parties in Europe is about geopolitics or opposing China. It isn’t.
If Xi Jinping ran in European elections, the vast majority of so-called “fascist voters” would vote for him without hesitation.
The truth is brutal but simple: Europeans are desperate for what China already provides — order, security, real opportunities, affordable housing, and quality education. Europe has failed its citizens. Streets are less safe, schools and housing are declining, and the future feels unstable. People are voting for leaders who promise to restore what Europe has lost, not to play some global power game.
Yeah but of course there are europeans/liberals who would call you a right wing chud for that. Hell we have some on this forum.
Unfortunately though even though those far right winger politicians will claim to do this and that, its mostly just talk for voters.
We’re running out of ways to create a society where our children can go out without risking their lives every weekend.
Most people in China have no idea just how dangerous European cities have become. Brussels, the so-called European capital, is now on par with the deadliest cities controlled by Mexican drug cartels. This is the reality our kids face—every night out is a risk.
plawolf
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Oh sweet summer child. You are being incredibly naive in thinking its just a funny coincidence that illegal migration increased just before fascism started to rise.
Maybe you should read up on confessions by the OG German Nazi fascists about how easy it was for them to get ordinary people to loudly applaud and demand their fascist policies by convincing them that their way of life and their own safety were being threatened and attacked by the ‘other’.
Who owns and controls all the media you consume in Europe?
When the boats first started to arrive, which media organisations ran heart wrenching stories about poor migrants drowning en mass and the ‘heartless’ European coast guards who didn’t help them to fire up public opinion against defending your boarders?
The same MSM that brought to light the large number of migrant deaths also highlights the extra threats and dangers to women and children making the crossings, so is it any wonder fewer women and children then were risking those crossings leading to increased single males coming across hoping to secure funds and status to bring their dependent across legally later?
Now, after years and years of barely checked flooding of illegal migrants with minimal efforts made to give them any path to legally integrate, who would have thought crime by illegal migrants would be increasing?
And who could have foreseen that increased crimes by migrants would make it easier for fascists to become mainstream again and gain power?
All of this was no only foreseeable, it was basically inevitable once you made it so easy for rich individuals to own and control mainstream media without limitations or any sort of oversight. All it would take is a small number of sufficiently driven and wealthy individuals to use control of the media to get whole countries and societies to flip to fascism using decades old Nazi playbooks. Frankly, it was only blind luck that this didn’t happen earlier.
I think there must be some misunderstanding here. China basically doesn't care whether Europe is left or right. China just hopes that all governments can handle international relations pragmatically. It just so happens that the right wing in Europe is relatively pragmatic right now. Although many of their ideas are very radical and unfriendly, this group of people knows how to face reality.
I once had "healthy conversation" with Swede 5 years ago. He ranting about immigrants problems. And he acknowledge that those problem is brought by higher up politician. So after all those years those supposed master race still not figure out the solutions. Or rather they not have gut to do. I suggest they drop them mask, brutally ruling or stop whimping and accepted the fate.