Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)
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They could get a fully competent Freedom class frigate if they wanted, with the armament, sensors and endurance, as well as combat ready.
The Legend class could be built to the same.
I seriously doubt that they will use any outside source, either the UK FFG or the Talian.
I expect that they will end up doing the Freedom class thing...and if they do it right this time, I am okay with that. Biut it NEEDS:
16-32 VLS cells capable of ESSM, VLSUBRIC, SM-2, and LRASM and ASM.
1 x 5" gun
2 x Helo hanger
Decent bow and towed sonars
24 x Hellfire SR ASM
8 x AMS cannister, unless they use 32 VLS and dedicate 8 of them to some ASM.
6-8,000 mile range at 20 knots
30+ knot speed (to keep with the carriers)
These things are all necessary for a strong multi-mission frigate, and we should not settle for anything less.
Use the 28 LCS that they upgrade to take on the lower intensity missions, from escort duties in low intensity areas, to patrols and counter mine duties for the INdependence class.
Anyhow...we shall see what we get.
I think you are very close to being right Jeff I don't see the hell fire as a need on the frigate though just put them in LCS only
I think the Hellfire is a good idea for the FFGs too.
The LCS can certainly use them...but the FFGs are going to necessarily go into the Littorals too, and they will need something lighter, but in sufficient quantity to take on the likes of Iranian, North Korean or other less capable navies who might be tempted to try swarming techniques against them,...and those 24 hellfires and their control do not take up that much room.
Anyhow, we shall see. I know if I was making the decision, they would have them for the reasons I just gave.
Jura The idiot
General
Sep 12, 2016
"The new Secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer,
...
When asked if the recently decommissioned Perry Class Frigates could be brought back into the fleet, he didn’t hesitate.
“The OHP is a heck of a simple boat that has a beautiful mission and that’s a possibility and we should take a look at taking those out of mothballs,” he said."
source is NavyTimes
fortunately, that article first talks ships, and only than various Creatures in the part I didn't read so that I don't throw up ... I was careful after I had seen a picture of Mrs./Mr./Creature Manning recently
LOL I hope my post doesn't violate Creatures' rights, Jeff just delete it if inappropriate
now
"The new Secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer,
...
When asked if the recently decommissioned Perry Class Frigates could be brought back into the fleet, he didn’t hesitate.
“The OHP is a heck of a simple boat that has a beautiful mission and that’s a possibility and we should take a look at taking those out of mothballs,” he said."
source is NavyTimes
fortunately, that article first talks ships, and only than various Creatures in the part I didn't read so that I don't throw up ... I was careful after I had seen a picture of Mrs./Mr./Creature Manning recently
LOL I hope my post doesn't violate Creatures' rights, Jeff just delete it if inappropriate
Good article bout the Perry's sad they weren't upgraded at all wonder bout the supposed recommission of some of them stands have not heard anything lately
Of all of those built by the US, almost all of them have either been:
Dismantled
Sunk
Transferred
Only 10 are left that are on hold for potential further military transfer.
So they could only recommission ten of them if they wanted to.
IMHO, given the money they would have to spend to modernize them...it is too few a return. We would do better to go ahead and design a new vessel, or use one of the designs already available (IE FFG Freedom of FFG Legend) and build 30 of those.
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I'm thinking the same thing as good as the Perry's were it is just a case of they have had their time in the sun
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Jura The idiot
General
I now read
NAVSEA: Navy Hybrid Path to 355-Ship Fleet Could Only Take 10 to 15 Years
and inside
OK here's the link to "capacity versus capability" considerations: Saturday at 2:55 PM
NAVSEA: Navy Hybrid Path to 355-Ship Fleet Could Only Take 10 to 15 Years
and inside
what for?!
OK here's the link to "capacity versus capability" considerations: Saturday at 2:55 PM
Ok to me I'm confused they want LCS then they don't want LCS and if I were a sailor I really woul dnt like the idea of my assigned ship being refferd to as A "missile" sponge not a real secure feeling there as far as extending service life is HOW and why when they aren't even deployed yet and perhaps Jeff or someone else can answer the effects of say saltwater in aluminum as I have no idea what they are except both LCS has extensive aluminum superstructers and hulls