Another good image shows China's forward post in Gogra just after it was built in May last year. Once again, it has been geolocated to about 15 km from India's Gogra post, or roughly 10 km from the lac.
Disengagement means no patrols past Gogra to the traditional patrol points east.1-2 Why would India escalate the situation by crossing the LAC(which it never disputed in the area) to try and attack Chinese posts of that sides? If anything you should be asking why the PLA failed to evict Indaian positions from areas within China's claim line.
Disengagement began in Got Springs aready began back in June.
Glad you are finally admitting China failed to change the LAC
Point being?Another good image shows China's forward post in Gogra just after it was built in May last year. Once again, it has been geolocated to about 15 km from India's Gogra post, or roughly 10 km from the lac.
I don't know who bhijit iyer is. From what you suggest, he seems to be an officer at Google Maps India, the official border delineator of India.This image exactly matches the map created by Bhijit Iyer nearly a year go. And Iyer used Google Earth. Are you saying Google got the Lac wrong? lol
Please provide conclusive evidence of Shukla's claims, beccause so far you have not been able to present any.
Still better than this thread devolving into Geopolitics, SCS, Pakistan, USA, Bhutan etc.I don't mind watching some banter and debate on this thread. But seriously, this finger & line debate show with @twineedle is getting boring. We had like, I don't know how many pages of back and forth between @twineedle and multiple members.
It always works like this: @twineedle puts some outdated maps, unverified maps, and some third party tweets. Says that China has conceded more than India, so India won! Yay! Other members respond with their own arguments and evidence. @twineedle ignores them and posts the same things over again. This is the very definition of trolling. Unlike typical Indian trolls @twineedle makes some personal arguments here and there. But his overall MO is to flood this thread with more of his garbage.
@twineedle. Contrary to what you think. I would still like to have you around in this thread. You are not the typical insulting Indian troll. We could use a little banter and some conflicting views from the Indian side. SDF has much better values than the IDF. As long as it is not trolling, racist, or insulting. Anti-China views are tolerated here. So I would urge you to agree to disagree with the other members in this forum, celebrate your Indian victory, and move on. Now. Otherwise, I'm gonna accuse you of trolling this forum.
The Ladakh Flashpoint thread indeed has much politics and banter going on in it. But I have still picked up much valuable news and information from this thread about the Ladakh standoff. Some of them for months before international news confirmed them. It's a pity that some of the news and fun facts are being drowned out by the @twineedle finger & lines debate show.
I agree with interacting with some members. That's why I don't mind having @twineedle and @Kakyan lurking around this forum. We have learned quite abit about the Indian POV, Indian party line, and the psyche of the Jai Hinds from these guys.Still better than this thread devolving into Geopolitics, SCS, Pakistan, USA, Bhutan etc.
I think, in India, there is a case of extreme politicization of topics as well as partisanship that is not so different from certain countries that pins itself "shining city atop the hill" badge.
So therefore, media houses, authors and even military officers (retired or otherwise) are quick to be tagged anti-particular faction or party. What more, there is a requirement of adhering to recognized media sources for each party /ideology.
Interacting with some members give an insight into the media sources and narratives that influence them as well as their policial factions.
I really want the Ladakh thread to stay silent. What I don't want is brouhaha about some crafted winning or losing. More than ready to accept Chinese drawbacks and failures, if any proved irrefutably .