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twineedle

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Anyway, it is interesting how some here are fantasizing about "crippling India" when China could not even reach its 1959 claim line.
 

manqiangrexue

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Anyway, it is interesting how some here are fantasizing about "crippling India" when China could not even reach its 1959 claim line.
Crippling India?? Economy in deep recession, COVID rampant, social unrest paralyzing the capital, and a military known for fratricide and handing out medals for failure. How much worse do you want it to get? India comes pre-crippled.
China would love to have a coherent India that naturally would want the same as China, which is to push Asia ahead of the West and turn the tables on the old times when Western nations committed crimes with impunity in Asia. China even offers to build India its rail infrastructure but India screwed that up too like a drunk fighting off people trying to save him from drowning. Sadly, despite its massive population, not only is India far from competent enough to help China raise Asia to its peak, it acts as a henchmen of the West and as an obstacle to China, Asia's only hope for overtaking the West.
 
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Crippling India?? Economy in deep recession, COVID rampant, social unrest paralyzing the capital, and a military known for fratricide and handing out medals for failure. How much worse do you want it to get? India comes pre-crippled.
China would love to have a coherent India that naturally would want the same as China, which is to push Asia ahead of the West and turn the tables on the old times when Western nations committed crimes with impunity in Asia. Sadly, despite its massive population, not only is India far from competent enough to rise to the task, it acts as a henchmen of the West and as an obstacle to China, Asia's only hope for overtaking the West.
India China and Pakistan together have almost 3 billion population. All three were massively devastated by European colonialism. If they had better relations they could be a massive counterbalance to the current European-American hegemony that has lasted 300 years.

It's going to take a big change in Indian thinking for that to ever happen.
 

twineedle

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In Gogra, China's new camps are 15 km from India's base, well behind the LAC. In Depsang, China has been behind the LAC since 2013, when it first moved into the region. And we all know the status of Galwan and Pangong. So much for that 1000 km captured lol.
 

Xizor

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Did you even read the article I posted? but in case you did not, here is a map showing China's claims.


The red line is the de facto lac of 1992-93, which mostly coincides with China's claims except for the yellow buldge. However, China doesn't have any structures or camps there.
In Depsang, both sides are in areas claimed by each other. China does have a minor tactical advantage in Depsang, but it isn't as important as as some are making it out to be. The India gov. is treating depsang as a completely different dispute, which is why they weren't discussed along with Pangong and Galwan.

So far, Galwan and Pangong are completely disengaged. Hot Springs is partial. Gogra, no change, both sides are very close.
That red line might signify what the LAC is for India and India's perception of what LAC is for China.
The article you posted are from March and June.

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The tricky maths in DMZ was evident during the first disengagement process in the Chinese-occupied Hot Springs and Galwan River Valley. India and China had agreed to creation of a buffer zone of one km each in the Hot Springs, according to Colonel (retired) Ajai Shukla. The 2-km buffer zone, roughly along the Chang Chenmo River, was “to China’s advantage. People’s Liberation Army (PLA) soldiers, who have intruded 3-4 km across the Line of Actual Control (LAC) into Indian territory near Patrolling Point 15 (PP-15), and about 2 km near PP-17A, will only be required to pull back 1 km”, he reported citing government sources.

Did you even read the article I posted ? In case you did not.
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Bellum_Romanum

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In Gogra, China's new camps are 15 km from India's base, well behind the LAC. In Depsang, China has been behind the LAC since 2013, when it first moved into the region. And we all know the status of Galwan and Pangong. So much for that 1000 km captured lol.
Your country is not worth a single Chinese soldier's blood, let alone 4 soldiers that died doing their duties for the country.

I don't know why you seem hell bent on trying to insist your version of truth on this border tussle between India and China. There has never been an instance where your country or it's military had any upper hand at anytime against China.

India isn't going anywhere because it's literally China’s biggest neighbour and also the country that's almost the same size population wise but that's where the parity ends. India isn't really given the weight or importance in terms of seeing it as a strategic enemy of China. The focus of the country is in the South China Sea and retaking the renegade province of Taiwan.

To entertain tantrum like attention seeking from India would distract the overarching goals and objectives of China; it would spend needless money and resources away from the most important theatre if it entertained India's wish of another 1962 level of candy ass whooping. Am sorry for saying this but that's just reality.
 
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