Ladakh Flash Point

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Oldschool

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The Russians said their number comes from an unidentified Indian source! It doesn't get more obvious than this. India has a history of manipulating media and information. It's clear from just the lies they told about this crisis and during it.

The European Union has declared Indian fake news a threat ... probably they mean a threat to common decency, intelligence, collective knowledge, and truth!

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The Americans NEVER said officially that PLA lost n soldiers and none of their intel reports or public forums have mentioned. The only place it has is Shinkleman's (might be wrong name) article that alleges US intel has given a number/estimate on PLA losses. This however is strangely not verified or even acknowledged which you'd think it would be if it were true and already public info.
running in circle. WHy indians don't use that unidentfied indian source and skip using the russian source?
 

ougoah

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India releases evidence of captured PLA.

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This was my question to the Indians:

"If any of India's and random media claims that US and Russian intel know PLA lost more than 20 men like India prefers to imagine and propagate, then why don't they challenge China or even just say officially that CCP is lying about losing 4 men?! They don't because they either don't know or they know that China is telling the truth and there is no need or purpose to challenge it officially. "

What do the captured PLA "scouts" "lost soldiers" have to do with my question?
 

ougoah

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This is from a Bollywood movie they are making. Why are you taking it so seriously?

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lol shameless Indian masturbation.

But they returned the PLA "lost soldiers who wondered away mysteriously" alive and well apparently which shows the restraint PLA had for their IA captives (real not bollywood) corrected their previous cold blooded murder.
 

ougoah

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running in circle. WHy indians don't use that unidentfied indian source and skip using the russian source?

It serves them to use unidentified anonymous military sources because this way their government doesn't need to perform PR damage control which may be officially challenged and proven wrong by China. This also allows them to propagate a lot of conflicting information and whatever stuff sticks to the range of audience, they got them convinced. When you can't win in real life you try to win perception or at least preserve the face and dignity of Modi when all the evidence and facts point to utter humiliation.
 

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running in circle. WHy indians don't use that unidentfied indian source and skip using the russian source?

Because they know their sources are not credible, even their ambassadors admitted it when Global Times goofed by quoting an Indian tabloid. Their strategy is to repeat a lie enough times so that it could gain traction internationally.

Contrary to what they like to tell you, the Indian Army is not camera shy. When they captured some hills south of Pangong they release videos of themselves waving Indian flags almost immediately. But when they’ve captured PLA soldiers or severely routed PLA soldiers they are keeping those under wraps?
 

SimaQian

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Actually the Chinese government already decided to have a closure on this issue. After the disengagement, the Chinese goverment immediately pour some FDI to India, even supported India to host Brics summit among other things. The government just want to move on and make win-win deals for India and China. It is a moot point why some people here still arguing on petty and non sense things. Even how many dead soldiers we wanted to believe on the other side of the border, they will not come back to life. Cooperation and investments can make people work and productive, put food on the table, and raise people living conditions. Its up to the Indians if they accept cooperation and investments from the Chinese.
 

ougoah

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Because they know their sources are not credible, even their ambassadors admitted it when Global Times goofed by quoting an Indian tabloid. Their strategy is to repeat a lie enough times so that it could gain traction internationally.

Contrary to what they like to tell you, the Indian Army is not camera shy. When they captured some hills south of Pangong they release videos of themselves waving Indian flags almost immediately. But when they’ve captured PLA soldiers or severely routed PLA soldiers they are keeping those under wraps?

Not only do they enthusiastically release footage of them intruding and dancing on Chinese soil (for a short time), they also enthusiastically released and commended a video of a group of Jawans beating on an unconscious PLA communication officer who exited his vehicle (according to Jai Hind he was dragged out of a locked armoured vehicle lol) to talk.

The Jai Hinds would release videos and photos of anything that resembles Jai Hind dignity or triumph if they had a shred. They even released that chimp fest footage of them ganging up on a communications officer. But they don't have photos of videos of "crushing PLA" or anything even remotely close.
 

ougoah

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Actually the Chinese government already decided to have a closure on this issue. After the disengagement, the Chinese goverment immediately pour some FDI to India, even supported India to host Brics summit among other things. The government just want to move on and make win-win deals for India and China. It is a moot point why some people here still arguing on petty and non sense things. Even how many dead soldiers we wanted to believe on the other side of the border, they will not come back to life. Cooperation and investments can make people work and productive, put food on the table, and raise people living conditions. Its up to the Indians if they accept cooperation and investments from the Chinese.

They will accept Chinese money, they're begging for it and have already accepted Chinese donations and investments to flow back into India. It's happening.

But I disagree. These morons and pathetic liars want to shape narratives. You have that typical Chinese magnanimous attitude. To deal with these cheap fucks you gotta be as petty and argue along otherwise they base future decisions and justifications based on lies and half truths. That's why China slows down. People are too keen to move on for better. We need to be as petty and argue for the truth lest the liars inherit the world.
 

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Actually the Chinese government already decided to have a closure on this issue. After the disengagement, the Chinese goverment immediately pour some FDI to India, even supported India to host Brics summit among other things. The government just want to move on and make win-win deals for India and China. It is a moot point why some people here still arguing on petty and non sense things. Even how many dead soldiers we wanted to believe on the other side of the border, they will not come back to life. Cooperation and investments can make people work and productive, put food on the table, and raise people living conditions. Its up to the Indians if they accept cooperation and investments from the Chinese.
Then a second Ladakh situation could potentially happen again. This win win mentality should only apply to countries that openly support a win win relationship, something the Chinese seem to not understand thanks to their Confucian culture.
 
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