I havent followed this crisis on this thread, and its the first time i post on it. But i would like for people here to indicate information sources about this crisis that dont originate from india nor china. Because the ideia that i have right now is that each side believe the story that their country (government and rumours) presents, and that there are no independent information sources about it.
Ladakh Flash Point
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Well it is hard since information sources outside of China and India rely on Indian media as their source of info.
Hendrik_2000
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Via Fool nightmare apparently the talk at Hot Spring disengagement failed
Government sources say Chinese military commanders have not agreed on the modalities for creating a demilitarised, 2-km-wide buffer zone.
In a blow to hopes of a Chinese withdrawal in the Hot Spring area of Ladakh, negotiators from China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) have refused to withdraw after crossing several kilometres (km) into India’s side of the Line of Actual Control (LAC).
Government sources say local military commanders from the two sides have not agreed on the creation of a demilitarised, 2-km-wide buffer zone. This would separate Indian and Chinese troops who are currently deployed eyeball-to-eyeball in the vicinity of Patrolling Point 15 (PP-15) and PP-17A, along the Chang Chenmo range.(rest of the article has to be subscribed).
(An old illustration below just for the reference for the Patrolling points)
Government sources say Chinese military commanders have not agreed on the modalities for creating a demilitarised, 2-km-wide buffer zone.
In a blow to hopes of a Chinese withdrawal in the Hot Spring area of Ladakh, negotiators from China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) have refused to withdraw after crossing several kilometres (km) into India’s side of the Line of Actual Control (LAC).
Government sources say local military commanders from the two sides have not agreed on the creation of a demilitarised, 2-km-wide buffer zone. This would separate Indian and Chinese troops who are currently deployed eyeball-to-eyeball in the vicinity of Patrolling Point 15 (PP-15) and PP-17A, along the Chang Chenmo range.(rest of the article has to be subscribed).
(An old illustration below just for the reference for the Patrolling points)
I mean, this is exactly how all previous agreements went, it's perfectly predictable. China and India announce an "agreement", Indian media proclaim that China has withdrawn to the moon, and a few days later it turns out China's staying right where it is.
If the Indians actually accepted a buffer zone, then this is definitely a Chinese victory. Note this area was on the Indian side of the LAC previously. A buffer zone would basically mean Indian troops have been ejected out of territory they used to control.
PiSigma
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Can't sell to a country waging war with another country unless you want to sever diplomatic relations. If say France keep on supplying India with missiles and jets while India declared war on China, then China have every right to penalize France for trading with the enemy.
Can you post the illustration?
plawolf
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In addition, ammunition, especially advanced ‘smart’ munitions, have a finite, and often surprisingly short storage life. Meaning even if you kept it all in perfect storage conditions the whole time, those munitions would still become worthless (actually, worse than worthless, as it is quite expensive, and sometimes dangerous, to safely dispose of expired munitions).
This is especially a problem with imported munitions, because they are expensive, and also because you don’t have the domestic manufacturing base to send them for life extensions or to safely dispose of them short of explosive demolition.
India’s reliance on imported arms is a chief reason why their munitions levels are at such critically short levels that their own GAO concluded they only had stocks for a few weeks of actual combat under ideal conditions (ie None of their ammo dumps or supply conveys gets taken out by enemy action before their munition stores are used or transferred to frontline units).
The alternative is to maintain wartime munitions levels with imports and pay eye watering sums of money each year just to replenish expired munitions. That would be unsustainable even for the US and China, which is why no serious military power relies on imported munitions. At most they have some imported specialist weapons for specialist roles and/or first days of war missions. But those would always be to supplement domestic versions rather than being the only source of such weapons.
The easiest and most accurate one liner summary of the new status quo at Ladakh.
Also hilarious results of Indian attempts at a trade war.
Indian media claimed their new Chinese made solar farm is the highest producer in all of Asia. It isn't even half of the output of an older solar farm in China.
Also hilarious results of Indian attempts at a trade war.
Indian media claimed their new Chinese made solar farm is the highest producer in all of Asia. It isn't even half of the output of an older solar farm in China.
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