Ladakh Flash Point

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tallgamer

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The Dalai Lama says that Tibet doesn't want separation, but wants greater development. Well China is doing to Tibet exactly that. Here is an example of city living lifestyle in Lhasa:

Can't see comparable kinds of development for Tibetans in Dharamsala. There is a deadly flood going on over there today. But that's another matter.

In Lhasa Tibetans live as Chinese citizens. Tibetan script is written everywhere. In media, signs, and products. Tibetans can buy imported stuff from around the world and watch movies in shopping malls. For them, there sre no such things as 'the good old days'. The good times is now.

While in India. Tibetans are second class citizens. Opportunities are limited. Their only purpose is to be used as tools against China. If any refused to be used, then the Jai Hinds would rather see them being deported. This shows how insincere India is to the welfare of Tibetans.

I think even the Dalai Lama himself could see the writing on the wall. Tibet can never be separated from China. India can keep dreaming.
Actually even after more than 60 years of refuge in India, their is zero resentment against the Tibetans in India. Which is a wonderful thing going by Pakistan's experience with the Afghan refugees.
You find them selling stuff all over india in prime spots.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Actually even after more than 60 years of refuge in India, their is zero resentment against the Tibetans in India. Which is a wonderful thing going by Pakistan's experience with the Afghan refugees.
You find them selling stuff all over india in prime spots.
Who are you trying to fool here? The data and stats that shows the Tibetan population in India is decreasing and leaving in droves along with their experiences of discrimination and lack of opportunities or your opinion based on your own biased Indian nonsensical pie in the sky b.s.
 

Xizor

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Actually even after more than 60 years of refuge in India, their is zero resentment against the Tibetans in India. Which is a wonderful thing going by Pakistan's experience with the Afghan refugees.
You find them selling stuff all over india in prime spots.

There won't be any resentment AFTER these people say they are Tibetans in exile and express their support for India.

But if they don't make these things clear, they'll be discriminated against for being a Chinese looking person.

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While some are migrating to the west, many are choosing to go back to Tibet.

Economically, many of the Tibetans in Tibet and across the world are doing relatively better than the Tibetans in India,” says Lobsang Yangtso, a Tibetan, born in Tibet, who is finishing her PhD from New Delhi’s Jawaharlal Nehru University. Yangtso’s statements are validated by data coming out of Tibet indicating robust economic growth in the region.

 

Xizor

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Which is a wonderful thing going by Pakistan's experience with the Afghan refugees.
You find them selling stuff all over india in prime spots.
I'm pretty sure that there isn't widespread discrimination against Afghans in Pakistan. You may back up your claims with atleast some surveys.

There are nearly 2 million Afghans in Pakistan selling stuff all over Pakistan in prime spots.

Which, I guess, ask some Pakistani, would be a wonderful thing.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Hi guys, my first post and i have joined this forum because of the ladakh dispute.
Going through most of this thread , i couldnt find the Chinese viewpoint on why this dispute erupted into such a serious clash.
Lot of name calling but no conclusive reasons given for the serious clash.
Hello to you. If you find the tenor of discussion here not to your liking, I'd encourage you to take a moment to consider what the reaction in a place like BR would be if someone here set up an account there and entered the "discussion." I think you'll find that we're very even-handed.
And India is involved in a low intensity insurgency and loses soldiers in kashmir on and off , but for China losing 5 soliders at the hands of a foreign adversary, after so many decades, must be particularly troubling ?
You are indeed correct. Human life is valued and respected in China.
 

tallgamer

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Hello to you. If you find the tenor of discussion here not to your liking, I'd encourage you to take a moment to consider what the reaction in a place like BR would be if someone here set up an account there and entered the "discussion." I think you'll find that we're very even-handed.

You are indeed correct. Human life is valued and respected in China.
Luckily I am not looking for validation from strangers in a defence forum.
I recognize this is a Chinese oriented forum with its obvious leanings.
And i also applaud your sense of humor with the even handed comment.
In a defence or a security environment, human life unfortunately becomes secondary to larger aims. Important to present a confident and united front. Ofcourse countries like India cannot do that with the cut throat politics we have.
I went through quite a few pages of this thread and most of the discussion centres on media writings and discussions in India. It would be better if the Chinese media thoughts on this conflict are also referred to. And i dont mean official media accounts.
 

Kaeshmiri

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Luckily I am not looking for validation from strangers in a defence forum.
I recognize this is a Chinese oriented forum with its obvious leanings.
And i also applaud your sense of humor with the even handed comment.
In a defence or a security environment, human life unfortunately becomes secondary to larger aims. Important to present a confident and united front. Ofcourse countries like India cannot do that with the cut throat politics we have.
I went through quite a few pages of this thread and most of the discussion centres on media writings and discussions in India. It would be better if the Chinese media thoughts on this conflict are also referred to. And i dont mean official media accounts.
You just checked some random page and quickly jumped to this absurd conclusion. I've seen this thread go from 1 page to 1174 pages with every peak, pass, road , sat image dissected and debated. Just because you dont understand whats happening doesn't mean you blame the quality of discussions (which dropped many times only because of nationalist Indians coming and trolling).
 

Kaine

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Hi guys, my first post
Welcome

Going through most of this thread , i couldnt find the Chinese viewpoint on why this dispute erupted into such a serious clash.
(X) Doubt. If you really went "through most of this thread" you could easily see 100+ times the Chinese viewpoint in hundreds of pages

Not a good start beginning your first post with a lie.

Lot of name calling but no conclusive reasons given for the serious clash.
Another lie


And India is involved in a low intensity insurgency and loses soldiers in kashmir on and off , but for China losing 5 soliders at the hands of a foreign adversary, after so many decades, must be particularly troubling ?
Its always troubling losing the lives of your own citizens. Now if India has gotten comfortable losing soldiers thats another story
 

jfy1155

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Luckily I am not looking for validation from strangers in a defence forum.
I recognize this is a Chinese oriented forum with its obvious leanings.
And i also applaud your sense of humor with the even handed comment.
In a defence or a security environment, human life unfortunately becomes secondary to larger aims. Important to present a confident and united front. Ofcourse countries like India cannot do that with the cut throat politics we have.
I went through quite a few pages of this thread and most of the discussion centres on media writings and discussions in India. It would be better if the Chinese media thoughts on this conflict are also referred to. And i dont mean official media accounts.
What is your DFI account?
 
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