J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII


by78

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Has this been shared before? Apologies if it has.

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Inst

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Chinese 3D TVC is stealthier than Russian 3D TVC because it uses a two-segment design that keeps the nozzle from breaking the main plane of the aircraft.

American 2D TVC is designed for IR stealth, so if the Chinese are willing to abandon IR stealth, they can increase thrust and decrease weight.
 

siegecrossbow

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Since the original poster claimed that he saw "tens" of J-20s, I assume that this was taken near Quzhou. This type of formation flying is probably for the CCP centennial celebration since I don't see any tactical advantage.

There is also a slight possibility that they are prepping for Zhuhai Airshow.

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First time we've seen 10 of them in the air simultaneously.

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PS even if you found the original source for this please don't share the source here or on any other western forum/social media. I don't want every single non-official photo-source to get banned.
 
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Helius

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A few magazine scans. Don't take the illustration seriously.



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I'm always under the impression that the cockpit is situated quite forward relative to the craft's main body due to all the equipment and machinery for the internal bays that would take up the necessary space directly aft of the cockpit.

This makes me wonder how a 2-seater variant would affect the jet's designed capabilities, and perhaps a better approach instead would be to lengthen the nose so that you'd have the WSO taking the pilot's original place, while the pilot's seat would then be moved further forward.
 

Atomicfrog

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I'm always under the impression that the cockpit is situated quite forward relative to the craft's main body due to all the equipment and machinery for the internal bays that would take up the necessary space directly aft of the cockpit.

This makes me wonder how a 2-seater variant would affect the jet's designed capabilities, and perhaps a better approach instead would be to lengthen the nose so that you'd have the WSO taking the pilot's original place, while the pilot's seat would then be moved further forward.
Having the pilot farther back would cut his field of view a lot with the canards and intakes...
 

Atomicfrog

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The function of the second seat will be more for UAV control than piloting so the positioning is not too important. Changing the nose would mess up all their stealth calculation and geometry... if it's only build for training is not that bad but i cannot see the need to build a j-20 dedicated for training.
 

Helius

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The function of the second seat will be more for UAV control than piloting so the positioning is not too important. Changing the nose would mess up all their stealth calculation and geometry... if it's only build for training is not that bad but i cannot see the need to build a j-20 dedicated for training.
That is assuming whatever components directly aft of the pilot seat that the WSO seat will eat into won't affect the jet's original capabilities like I mentioned.

I mean it's possible the space behind the pilot might just be free real estate reserved for an eventual WSO, but I find that unlikely. So like I said, whatever stuff they'd have to take out to accommodate jamming that WSO seat in, I hope it's not vital lol.
 

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