J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII


Bltizo

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That is assuming whatever components directly aft of the pilot seat that the WSO seat will eat into won't affect the jet's original capabilities like I mentioned.

I mean it's possible the space behind the pilot might just be free real estate reserved for an eventual WSO, but I find that unlikely. So like I said, whatever stuff they'd have to take out to accommodate jamming that WSO seat in, I hope it's not vital lol.

What will likely happen is that anything that cannot be fit by the addition of the second cockpit without causing internal structural changes will end up producing a slight hump to the aft of the cockpit, in the same way that most other twin seaters do it. J-10AS and twin seat F-16s for example have a spine ridge, while twin seat Flankers just have a larger hump immediately behind the cockpit.

That non-official CGI depiction of a twin seat J-20 is probably too simple because it doesn't accommodate for a rear hump -- whereas if we look at that brief CGI depiction from that AVIC video in June, showed a slightly more pronounced hump which would seem more likely to me (that said, I also wouldn't necessarily put money on the twin seat J-20 looking exactly like the depicted CGI.

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That is assuming whatever components directly aft of the pilot seat that the WSO seat will eat into won't affect the jet's original capabilities like I mentioned.

I mean it's possible the space behind the pilot might just be free real estate reserved for an eventual WSO, but I find that unlikely. So like I said, whatever stuff they'd have to take out to accommodate jamming that WSO seat in, I hope it's not vital lol.
Maybe it's a fuel tank...
 

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so what does that mean?
It confirms that there are now four confirmed J-20 brigades - two brigades for testing+training (they were the first units to receive the J-20), one front line brigade in Eastern Theater Command which we've known about for a while now, and now this story confirms what that the PLA watching community has been speculating for a while now that another front line brigade in Northern Theater Command has received the J-20A.
 

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That's exactly the image I know since early April.



And even more it is the first J-20A unit fielding the latest variant powered by indigenous WS-10C.

Unfortunately that part is not readily apparent from the satellite photos. However I've seen other photos that indicate that this is the case.

During the PRC National Defense Ministry’s monthly press conference for January 2021, the ministry’s spokesman was asked whether the J-20 was being fielded on a large scale.3 The spokesman’s response emphasized the “objective laws” governing the research and development of an aircraft and the progressive testing that the J-20 has undergone. 4 In effect, he answered negatively, but having another aviation brigade transition to the J-20 would suggest that his answer was not alluding to problems with the J-20. On the contrary, it would suggest that the PLAAF is satisfied with, and confident in, the capabilities of the J-20, and that more combat units are likely to receive the J-20 in the future.

I think that previously production of J-20 has been held up by reliance on Russian engines. Now that the hurdle has been removed we will see mass production of the WS-10 variant in the next 3-5 years. Personally I predict that Quzhou will be the next to receive them, since it is located in a strategically important location and the local maintenance crew have almost a year of experience supporting the J-20. They also traditionally operate the Su-30, which is what was operated at Wuhu before the switch.
 
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