J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VIII

latenlazy

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omg first time seeing J-20 dogfight??? But yeah, I've given up all hope of ever seeing it do any sort of high alpha maneuver :( atp I'm pretty sure it's just not capable of them
The PLA doesn’t exist to put on performative showpieces for fanboys who think the most important thing in their life is winning dumb internet self esteem contests. People who want to be cheerleaders should try to remember that the cheer squad are not the main characters.
 

Blitzo

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The PLA doesn’t exist to put on performative showpieces for fanboys who think the most important thing in their life is winning dumb internet self esteem contests. People who want to be cheerleaders should try to remember that the cheer squad are not the main characters.

Better yet, people should stop viewing PLA watching as a spectator sport.


Everyone should remember that we aren't here to enjoy ourselves, we are here to suffer, and that everyone is entitled to nothing.
 

latenlazy

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Better yet, people should stop viewing PLA watching as a spectator sport.


Everyone should remember that we aren't here to enjoy ourselves, we are here to suffer, and that everyone is entitled to nothing.
Yes. Cheerleading for a spectator sport is a kind of mindset I think a lot of us more serious participants in this forum would very much like to discourage. This is not a fan club and people seeking such experiences should take it elsewhere.
 

siegecrossbow

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omg first time seeing J-20 dogfight??? But yeah, I've given up all hope of ever seeing it do any sort of high alpha maneuver :( atp I'm pretty sure it's just not capable of them

In 2021 on CCTV 7 they mentioned air combat exercise between two J-20 where merge eventually happened. The squad leader from Anshan also explicitly mentioned during interview that J-20 with WS-10C has superior maneuverability than J-11B previously flown by the squad.

As for high alpha maneuvers if you mean stuff like cobra and falling leaf then we have not seen it. But the tumble roll is a practical maneuver for rapidly changing nose pointing that we’ve seen multiple times at airshows in Zhuhai and Changchun.
 

Mearex

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As for high alpha maneuvers if you mean stuff like cobra and falling leaf then we have not seen it. But the tumble roll is a practical maneuver for rapidly changing nose pointing that we’ve seen multiple times at airshows in Zhuhai and Changchun.
not necessarily cobras and falling leaves. I'm not that delusional to believe the J-20 can do those. Just any turn where the angle between the direction of the aircraft and its velocity is high.
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honestly atp I've already given up on us ever making a true air superiority fighter. I just hope that our interceptors are good enough to get the job done.
 
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latenlazy

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not necessarily cobras and falling leaves. I'm not that delusional to believe the J-20 can do those. Just any turn where the angle between the direction of the aircraft and its velocity is high.
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It sounds like you’re mad because you want to do “oh yeah well the J-20 can also F-22” online bragging. This is a much lower quality of participation than what we try to encourage in this forum.
 

TheWanderWit

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not necessarily cobras and falling leaves. I'm not that delusional to believe the J-20 can do those. Just any turn where the angle between the direction of the aircraft and its velocity is high.
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honestly atp I've already given up on us ever making a true air superiority fighter. I just hope that our interceptors are good enough to get the job done.
Is this bait?
 
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