J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VIII

[Blitzo]

New thread for J-20, as the old one was well over 700 pages.

Old thread here:

J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

Upper range capabilities don't determine lower range floors. They do show trends, however. Jamming antennas begin from certain sizes(to get to certain ranges and power levels), and show tendency to either grow, or pack more power in the previous size(GaN for example), or both. Is it possible...

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[Phead128]

Can we say China has now mastered 5th gen jet engines? Or is it still not yet confirmed via official photos?

 

[antiterror13]

Can we say China has now mastered 5th gen jet engines? Or is it still not yet confirmed via official photos?

With WS-15 is approaching in service, .... we can say Yes

 

[zyun8288]

Can we say China has now mastered 5th gen jet engines? Or is it still not yet confirmed via official photos?

I would say Mastering, not mastered yet. After J20 with WS15 in serial production for at least 1 year, then it’s OK to say mastered. To be on the safer side, I would wait until a new variant of WS15 comes out.

 

[drunkmunky]

I would say no. Supercruise has not be confirmed although we all suspect that is in the pipeline. thrust vectoring is under the same status as under development. It's a great step but we are far from equal to our competitors.

 

[56860]

I would say no. Supercruise has not be confirmed although we all suspect that is in the pipeline. thrust vectoring is under the same status as under development. It's a great step but we are far from equal to our competitors.

Supercruise is one of the requirements of the WS-15 engine. It is confirmed.

 

[minime]

I would say no. Supercruise has not be confirmed although we all suspect that is in the pipeline. thrust vectoring is under the same status as under development. It's a great step but we are far from equal to our competitors.

It's been 5 years since J-10B TVC demonstrator performed on 2018 Zhuhai Airshow.
There are a lot of video on YouTube for you to check out how good the TVC is on J-10B TVC.
So I don't think TVC itself is a problem.
On the Yankee & Shilao member only podcast, they mentioned TVC is not a priority on J-20A as the main mission profile is to venture into distant hostile air space on its own with little support.
Thus sensor capability and subsystem redundancy in case of battle damage or malfunction are more important than TVC.
They're not expecting TVC on J-20 until subsystems become lighter weight or more thrust on WS-15 variants.
A lot of time on the podcast covering how redundancy making early batch J-20 a hassle for maintenance guy and how job become much easier in the later batch unit due to continuously improvement over the production.
The main inspiration for redundancy focus design came from the half wing F-15 able to RTB safely.

 

[latenlazy]

It's been 5 years since J-10B TVC demonstrator performed on 2018 Zhuhai Airshow.
There are a lot of video on YouTube for you to check out how good the TVC is on J-10B TVC.
So I don't think TVC itself is a problem.
On the Yankee & Shilao member only podcast, they mentioned TVC is not a priority on J-20A as the main mission profile is to venture into distant hostile air space on its own with little support.
Thus sensor capability and subsystem redundancy in case of battle damage or malfunction are more important than TVC.
They're not expecting TVC on J-20 until subsystems become lighter weight or more thrust on WS-15 variants.
A lot of time on the podcast covering how redundancy making early batch J-20 a hassle for maintenance guy and how job become much easier in the later batch unit due to continuously improvement over the production.
The main inspiration for redundancy focus design came from the half wing F-15 able to RTB safely.

Errr don’t think that’s what the said.

 

[minime]

Errr don’t think that’s what the said.

Please elaborate.

 

[antiterror13]

It's been 5 years since J-10B TVC demonstrator performed on 2018 Zhuhai Airshow.
There are a lot of video on YouTube for you to check out how good the TVC is on J-10B TVC.
So I don't think TVC itself is a problem.
On the Yankee & Shilao member only podcast, they mentioned TVC is not a priority on J-20A as the main mission profile is to venture into distant hostile air space on its own with little support.
Thus sensor capability and subsystem redundancy in case of battle damage or malfunction are more important than TVC.
They're not expecting TVC on J-20 until subsystems become lighter weight or more thrust on WS-15 variants.
A lot of time on the podcast covering how redundancy making early batch J-20 a hassle for maintenance guy and how job become much easier in the later batch unit due to continuously improvement over the production.
The main inspiration for redundancy focus design came from the half wing F-15 able to RTB safely.

when you said "early batch J-20 " ....... how many J-20 is considered early batch ?