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zavve

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Indian navy hardly imports anything
Almost all warships except for one Russian aircraft carrier (Admiral gorshkov) in Indian navy are completely made in India
How come Indian airforce relies heavily on imported fighter jets ?
Is it because Indian made fighter jets use American engines and may face maintenance issues in case of American Sanctions?
The ships are assembled in India but are in no way indigenous. Israeli radar and SAM, Italian guns, Russian CIWS, Ukrainian turbines and BrahMos are still not fully built in India. Building a fighter jet is much more complex than building a hull and assembling foreign parts.
 

Chandragupt

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The ships are assembled in India but are in no way indigenous. Israeli radar and SAM, Italian guns, Russian CIWS, Ukrainian turbines and BrahMos are still not fully built in India. Building a fighter jet is much more complex than building a hull and assembling foreign parts.
By that logic even F22 raptor is not indigenous to US because it has British ejection seat and European missile meteor installed apart from various other systems and subsystems imported from other countries
 

Maikeru

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Indian navy hardly imports anything
Almost all warships except for one Russian aircraft carrier (Admiral gorshkov) in Indian navy are completely made in India
How come Indian airforce relies heavily on imported fighter jets ?
Is it because Indian made fighter jets use American engines and may face maintenance issues in case of American Sanctions?
The hull represents a fairly small % of the cost of a warship. What % by value of the engines, systems, radars, sonars and weapons of IN ships are imported?
 

Chandragupt

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The hull represents a fairly small % of the cost of a warship. What % by value of the engines, systems, radars, sonars and weapons of IN ships are imported?
You can Google it everything is available on internet.
As of 2022 indigenous content in the Tejas Mark 1 is 59.7% by value and 75.5% by number of line replaceable units.
Indigenous content will increase further in Mark1A because it will use more Indian made components most important of which is Gallium Arsenide UTTAM AESA Radar
 

Chandragupt

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News is coming that development of a 130KN turbofan engine in India for AMCA Stealth fighter jet is about to be approved by CCS
The engine has to enter service after 9 years of development
even if it fails to achieve 130KN and achieves 110KN thrust it may not be able to power AMCA in that case but would still be more than enough to power LCA Tejas MK1A and MK2
 

supersnoop

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Indian navy hardly imports anything
Almost all warships except for one Russian aircraft carrier (Admiral gorshkov) in Indian navy are completely made in India
How come Indian airforce relies heavily on imported fighter jets ?
Is it because Indian made fighter jets use American engines and may face maintenance issues in case of American Sanctions?

All the carrier aircraft have been imported since the Sea Harrier, to MiG-29K, now Rafale-M.

US doesn’t use Meteor, and it is certainly capable of replacing the ejection seat.

As mentioned, for IN, the radar sets are Israeli. They are also subject to US sanctions (as China knows). What is a destroyer without radar? Defenceless. What is a carrier without aircraft? A cruise ship.
 

kentchang

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All the carrier aircraft have been imported since the Sea Harrier, to MiG-29K, now Rafale-M.

US doesn’t use Meteor, and it is certainly capable of replacing the ejection seat.

As mentioned, for IN, the radar sets are Israeli. They are also subject to US sanctions (as China knows). What is a destroyer without radar? Defenceless. What is a carrier without aircraft? A cruise ship.

So long as the U.S. perceives a higher threat from China, India is quite safe in using U.S./Israeli technologies. U.S. is not stupid enough to push India away. Ergo, for the life span of current generation platforms, nothing to worry about. This gives India time to get the upgrades/replacements ready before 2040.
 

Abominable

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So long as the U.S. perceives a higher threat from China, India is quite safe in using U.S./Israeli technologies. U.S. is not stupid enough to push India away. Ergo, for the life span of current generation platforms, nothing to worry about. This gives India time to get the upgrades/replacements ready before 2040.
Americans have a habit of stabbing their allies in the back. Americans have sanctioned India in the past.

I think it is wiser for the Indians to trust the French over the Americans, who will sell military equipment to anyone.
 

Chandragupt

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All the carrier aircraft have been imported since the Sea Harrier, to MiG-29K, now Rafale-M.

US doesn’t use Meteor, and it is certainly capable of replacing the ejection seat.

As mentioned, for IN, the radar sets are Israeli. They are also subject to US sanctions (as China knows). What is a destroyer without radar? Defenceless. What is a carrier without aircraft? A cruise ship.
All of them will get replaced with Indian made systems and subsystems be it the Ukrainian engine the radars or the fighter jets
Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter (TEDBF) is under development for Indian Navy it looks like Korean KF21
stealth design without internal weapons bay
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I like the design of Indian made fighter jets they look so cool
 

Chandragupt

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Americans have a habit of stabbing their allies in the back. Americans have sanctioned India in the past.

I think it is wiser for the Indians to trust the French over the Americans, who will sell military equipment to anyone.
India should trust no one the day India has replaced American engines in Tejas with their own indigenous engines it would be among the best selling fighter jets in the world because F16s though a good fighter jet is prone to American sanctions
Though I will put Tejas above F16 even at this stage because Tejas has only one American component which is the turbofan engine so a country can order extra engine and spare parts in advance to avoid the maintenance issues in case of American sanctions on the other hand F16s are entirely made in USA so ordering each and every spare part in advance may not be cost effective and practical because an aircraft has to go through upgrades
and Indian Japanese or Chinese turbofan engines are suitable for East Asian countries because Russian engines are designed to operate in extremely low temperature and may not work properly in hot or humid conditions or in deserts
 

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