You guys severely underestimate the verdic engineering, which for now is only second, or third behind Germanic and Turkish engineering prowess.
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how is this even remotely comparable to the SwiFt prototype ?
the Swift weights 40 times more(1t)
Swift isnt really meant to be a product of it own
its just a scaled version of a much bigger stealth drone
why is it having such high demands when people can build them by their own.
Microwaved dungbombs... deadly
What's the appeal of the Tejas aircraft fighter other than it being more or less the cheapest amongst it's competitors vying for the Malaysian next fighter plane? Does Tejas offer unique features that aren't available to the South Koreas F-50, The PaK-Sino JF-17? I mean, the freaking Indian Air Force isn't even using this air craft and this thing is from their own country. Can someone here provide objective analysis that perhaps most of us have perhaps overlook all because it's Indian made?
Maybe it's the other way around, it's actually just an extra for the MRO for SU-30s lol.
If this is true, then this is gonna become a suicidal deal. Malaysia's existing fleet of Su-30MKMs should not be expected to fly very much. We should expect: inflated prices, missed delivery deadlines, defective Indian spare parts, incompetent Indian technicians, and many other things to keep Malaysia's Su-30MKM fleet on the ground. So Malaysia wants the dumbest defense deal in ASEAN history? You got it!
Off course, anything made in India is better than anything made in China!
Tejas > JF-17. Tejas > J10, Tejas > J-20.
India superpowah! Jai Hind!
This India-Malaysia Tejas deal is old speculative news. It will not happen. There is just no way in hell that Malaysia is buying the Tejas.
1) Malaysia has a very limited defence budget. The Tejas is already more expensive than a brand new Su-30SM from Russia. Sanctions by the US? There is still the cheaper option: JF-17.
2) Sunni-Islamic countries take priority in Malaysia's defence dealings. If an Islamic country can offer anything similar or better than a Tejas, you can bet that it'll be ahead of the queue. Hint: Pakistan's JF-17. Malaysia hates China? Well as long as they buy it from Pakistan, and not China, the Malaysian leaders and populace will accept it. They are some of the dumbest people on this earth. Its been done before, Malaysia had bought Baktar-Shikan (aka HJ-8) ATGMs from Pakistan.
3) Israel and Malaysia have bad blood over the Palestinian issue. Malaysia has a boycott on Israeli imports. Tejas contains Israeli avionics. Even if Malaysia is still dumb enough to go ahead and purchase the Tejas. Israel, who doesn't like Malaysia could veto the deal, or the Malaysian public could protest the deal to death.
4) Tejas is not even procured in meaningful numbers by the Indian Airforce. Its not even combat proven, unlike the JF-17 and FA-50. Malaysia greatly prefers to buys proven warplanes. Tejas is far from a proven warplane.
5) Tejas is barely even in full production, yet India wants to export it? Judging by realistic Indian production rates, Malaysia is gonna wait decades for India to deliver a full fleet of Tejas. There are better alternatives: JF-17, FA-50, F-18, or Gripen. Chances are, it won't take decades for a full fleet of these jets to be delivered.
Its yet another self-pleasing Jai Hind article. Good entertainment.
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The problem with it is that it doesn't. For a military industrial complex to seemingly get outdone by a hobbyist in regards to aerodynamics is frankly, and excuse my language, SADGE. If the guy that made the model straight up put a phone camera on there, it'd probably be a pretty good military drone. Which again, for a country's military industrial complex to built something that we're even comparing to this.... is sad. IMO, Indians need to understand the benefits from being lowkey and humble. This Swift drone, is frankly, not worth anyone's view time.
If Malaysians actually go ahead and buy the Tejas it'll be the dumbest miliary procurement in recent memory. Malaysia needs to have a word with Peru when they bought those Indian made helicopters. Even the Indian air force don't want it, and thats saying something.
It's hard to know if they are genuinely considering it or it's just the usual Indian media.
Malaysia seem to be on a cost cutting mission which is why American jets are out. Going for the mig-35 will likely lead to CAASTA sanctions. To me the only sensible option is the JF-17, although they will have concerns.
"2) Sunni-Islamic countries take priority in Malaysia's defence dealings. If an Islamic country can offer anything similar or better than a Tejas, you can bet that it'll be ahead of the queue. Hint: Pakistan's JF-17. Malaysia hates China? Well as long as they buy it from Pakistan, and not China, the Malaysian leaders and populace will accept it. They are some of the dumbest people on this earth. Its been done before, Malaysia had bought Baktar-Shikan (aka HJ-8) ATGMs from Pakistan."
If Pakistan can pull off getting Malaysia to buy the JF-17 using the Islamic brotherhood card it'll be a massive coup. I'm not sure it will happen though. Hopefully the guy in charge of procurement is a Malay and not a Chinese Malaysian, they hate China.
It's hard to know if they are genuinely considering it or it's just the usual Indian media.
Malaysia seem to be on a cost cutting mission which is why American jets are out. Going for the mig-35 will likely lead to CAASTA sanctions. To me the only sensible option is the JF-17, although they will have concerns.
"2) Sunni-Islamic countries take priority in Malaysia's defence dealings. If an Islamic country can offer anything similar or better than a Tejas, you can bet that it'll be ahead of the queue. Hint: Pakistan's JF-17. Malaysia hates China? Well as long as they buy it from Pakistan, and not China, the Malaysian leaders and populace will accept it. They are some of the dumbest people on this earth. Its been done before, Malaysia had bought Baktar-Shikan (aka HJ-8) ATGMs from Pakistan."
If Pakistan can pull off getting Malaysia to buy the JF-17 using the Islamic brotherhood card it'll be a massive coup. I'm not sure it will happen though. Hopefully the guy in charge of procurement is a Malay and not a Chinese Malaysian, they hate China.
We never know. But Indian media has proven a track record of making up absolute fantasies. Such as the "Galwan superheroes", or Vietnam allying with India to fight China at the SCS.
There are big concerns, because the Malaysian airforce is made up primarily of British, US, and Russian aircrafts. Introducing a Sino-Pakistan jet into the mix will require a new set of logistics. Plus new training would be needed for the jets. Ironically, if Malaysia buys the Tejas, the logistical problems will be just as bad, if not worse.
But we should not expect the Malaysian top brass to be that objective. If they really were, then why does the Malaysian airforce have BAE Hawks, F-18s, and Su-30s? I don't think they actually seriously plan for war.
Malaysia always makes sure that their military top-brass are always chaired by Muslim Malays. The Malaysian Monarchy is the de-jure leader of the Military. The Monarchy is the de jure leader and defender of Islam and the Malay race. They will never allow any Chinese Malaysians to chair the military top brass.
So if Pakistan seriously offers the JF-17 to Malaysia as an alternative to the Tejas, there will be Muslim-Malays doing the review. If they have the budget, and they have to choose between the JF-17 or Tejas, then its pretty much a done deal for the JF-17. For any Malaysian Chinese who would be outraged at this kind of deal, well they can cry about it.