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ougoah

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Why do Indians consider their Agni V missile as an ICBM? It is clearly an IRBM.

India again just doing crazy amounts of self hyping for no reason except in an effort to look good.

Agni V is a Agni III with more fuel. Also like Agni III it is only single warhead, no MIRV even and looks less modern and far less well than even a Chinese DF-3 missile from the 1970s. The only difference is it has more range and is road mobile compared to the DF-3 but the DF-3 was introduced by China in 1971 and the Indian Agni V only just recently successfully completed tests with a string of failed tests in past years.

While China had MIRV for about 20 years now and guided MaRV for more than 10 years now, India is yet to develop the most rudimentary MIRV.

China is mounting HGVs, forget about MaRVs and India is yet to even develop a single MIRV.

And yet this arrogance and evil from the usual Indians.

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And lots of comments from months back about using nukes on China as if China is there for them to nuke. These scum delight in violence and delight in threatening violence on others in between dehumanising others and pumping themselves up.


All they have with Agni V is a DF-3A equivalent and one that is 50 years later than DF-3. This is also their most advanced missile if you can believe it.

It has no MIRV, never been tested with MIRV, failed about half its test fires until recently. The Indians call any test a success as long as it launches but half of them suffered some failure during years of testing and trials to complete the missile.

India has far less than 100 nuclear warheads. Minimal capacity for enrichment and no thermonuclear weapons. Largest ever tested and designed warhead is a fission weapon yielding 50KT. China since 1960s already mastered thermonuclear weapon and tested 4000KT weapon.

China - at least 300 MT yield warheads, many facilities for enrichment to the point at least one is retired and a public museum now. Large uranium reserves and more than twice the number of nuclear plants with work on building many times more 3d and 4th gen stations.

India has less than 10 Agni V in service. China has over 100 combined DF-21, DF-26, DF-17, DF-5, DF-31, DF-41 all of which can cover all of India in various suitable launch positions. And yet the arrogance and desire for violence from the Indians.

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India's aluminium foil Agni V.
 

tygyg1111

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Why do Indians consider their Agni V missile as an ICBM? It is clearly an IRBM.

India again just doing crazy amounts of self hyping for no reason except in an effort to look good.

Agni V is a Agni III with more fuel. Also like Agni III it is only single warhead, no MIRV even and looks less modern and far less well than even a Chinese DF-3 missile from the 1970s. The only difference is it has more range and is road mobile compared to the DF-3 but the DF-3 was introduced by China in 1971 and the Indian Agni V only just recently successfully completed tests with a string of failed tests in past years.

While China had MIRV for about 20 years now and guided MaRV for more than 10 years now, India is yet to develop the most rudimentary MIRV.

China is mounting HGVs, forget about MaRVs and India is yet to even develop a single MIRV.

And yet this arrogance and evil from the usual Indians.

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And lots of comments from months back about using nukes on China as if China is there for them to nuke. These scum delight in violence and delight in threatening violence on others in between dehumanising others and pumping themselves up.


All they have with Agni V is a DF-3A equivalent and one that is 50 years later than DF-3. This is also their most advanced missile if you can believe it.

It has no MIRV, never been tested with MIRV, failed about half its test fires until recently. The Indians call any test a success as long as it launches but half of them suffered some failure during years of testing and trials to complete the missile.

India has far less than 100 nuclear warheads. Minimal capacity for enrichment and no thermonuclear weapons. Largest ever tested and designed warhead is a fission weapon yielding 50KT. China since 1960s already mastered thermonuclear weapon and tested 4000KT weapon.

China - at least 300 MT yield warheads, many facilities for enrichment to the point at least one is retired and a public museum now. Large uranium reserves and more than twice the number of nuclear plants with work on building many times more 3d and 4th gen stations.

India has less than 10 Agni V in service. China has over 100 combined DF-21, DF-26, DF-17, DF-5, DF-31, DF-41 all of which can cover all of India in various suitable launch positions. And yet the arrogance and desire for violence from the Indians.

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India's aluminium foil Agni V.
Well what can I say... centuries of humiliation gives the humiliated a mean streak.
On the other hand, this kind of delusion and comfort seeking will only delay any real development, so I say, let them be.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Senior Member
Registered Member
Why do Indians consider their Agni V missile as an ICBM? It is clearly an IRBM.

India again just doing crazy amounts of self hyping for no reason except in an effort to look good.

Agni V is a Agni III with more fuel. Also like Agni III it is only single warhead, no MIRV even and looks less modern and far less well than even a Chinese DF-3 missile from the 1970s. The only difference is it has more range and is road mobile compared to the DF-3 but the DF-3 was introduced by China in 1971 and the Indian Agni V only just recently successfully completed tests with a string of failed tests in past years.

While China had MIRV for about 20 years now and guided MaRV for more than 10 years now, India is yet to develop the most rudimentary MIRV.

China is mounting HGVs, forget about MaRVs and India is yet to even develop a single MIRV.

And yet this arrogance and evil from the usual Indians.

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And lots of comments from months back about using nukes on China as if China is there for them to nuke. These scum delight in violence and delight in threatening violence on others in between dehumanising others and pumping themselves up.


All they have with Agni V is a DF-3A equivalent and one that is 50 years later than DF-3. This is also their most advanced missile if you can believe it.

It has no MIRV, never been tested with MIRV, failed about half its test fires until recently. The Indians call any test a success as long as it launches but half of them suffered some failure during years of testing and trials to complete the missile.

India has far less than 100 nuclear warheads. Minimal capacity for enrichment and no thermonuclear weapons. Largest ever tested and designed warhead is a fission weapon yielding 50KT. China since 1960s already mastered thermonuclear weapon and tested 4000KT weapon.

China - at least 300 MT yield warheads, many facilities for enrichment to the point at least one is retired and a public museum now. Large uranium reserves and more than twice the number of nuclear plants with work on building many times more 3d and 4th gen stations.

India has less than 10 Agni V in service. China has over 100 combined DF-21, DF-26, DF-17, DF-5, DF-31, DF-41 all of which can cover all of India in various suitable launch positions. And yet the arrogance and desire for violence from the Indians.

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India's aluminium foil Agni V.
Am just going to link/share what Malcolm X said about India and China. His words speaks volume and describes IMHO the perpetual state of the Indian mindset in general to some degree.
 

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Michaelsinodef

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I hadn't paid much attention to the Indian nuclear missiles program, but man, do they look outdated compared to even the DPRK's missiles.
I mean DPRK is like what? Just flat out like 20 years ahead of current India?

One of their newer missiles even look like the DF-17 and probably works kinda similar albeit most likely a bit worse than the DF-17.
 

Xsizor

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India places orders for French HAMMER missiles to boost Tejas capabilities​

New Delhi: In a step towards further strengthening the capabilities of the indigenous LCA Tejas fighter aircraft, the Indian Air Force has placed orders for HAMMER missiles from France which would allow it to take out any hardened bunkers or ground targets at stand-off ranges of more than 70 kilometres. The capability enhancement of the LCA Tejas fighter aircraft is being done in the middle of a military stand-off with China using the emergency procurement power granted by the Narendra Modi government to the defence forces.

India set to seal $3 billion Predator drone deal with U.S.​


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India is set to finalise a long-conceived proposal to procure 30 multi-mission armed Predator drones from the U.S. for the three services at an estimated cost of over $3 billion (around ₹22,000 crore), official sources said on Tuesday.The proposal to acquire the MQ-9B long-endurance drones, armed with air-to-ground missiles, is likely to be cleared by the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) in the next few weeks following which it will be placed before the PM-led Cabinet Committee on Security, they said.



1. India still can't develop a PGM ? It is NOT technology intense. Btw, do remember that India used SPICE (PGM) against Pakistan in 2019. I read that Spice was too expensive ( as most things Israeli MIC).

2. The predator deal seem like its for a quid pro quo towards the CAATSA waiver. Many Indians and most sober 'Jai Hinds' believe so.
 

Xsizor

Captain
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I mean DPRK is like what? Just flat out like 20 years ahead of current India?

One of their newer missiles even look like the DF-17 and probably works kinda similar albeit most likely a bit worse than the DF-17.
India has a relatively good Space program. So, technologically, they are better than DPRK. India also has the money to throw ( or the stomach to throw the money considering its poor level of economy, aptly).

The reason why India is twiddling its thumbs and not pushing for longer range ICBMS is, purportedly, because of its wariness in upsetting its new "allies" ( Western Europe and USA). Right now, Indian missiles launched from New Delhi can reach Italy to the west and Tokyo to the east. If there are no adversaries (or potential adversaries) beyond then why should India develop longer range missiles ? : would be the question it thinks others would raise.
 

by78

Lieutenant General
I don't have any info beyond what's mentioned in the article. But knowing that much of 15B's stuff is the same
as on 15A, it won't be 2024 to build it. More like 2018.

I'm not optimistic, since P15B is supposed to have an upgraded sensor and combat suite, along with a new variant of the Barak, not to mention other weapons new to it that will have to be integrated.

Let'w wait and see, but I don't expect the first ship to enter service until around 2020, judging by India's track record.

Anyone can estimate whatever they like. Who expected US JSF program to be delayed this long?

Anything can happen once you get down to building something, just that measures are being taken by MDL
to cut down on time as much as possible right now. However, I don't expect their efficiency to be on par
with the private shipyards like Pipavav or L&T myself.

@Gessler,
Five years ago you made the prediction that P15B would enter service in 2018, which I deemed wildly optimistic based on India's abysmal record of project management. I had predicted 2020 as the earliest when Project 15B would enter service, and I have been proven correct. As seen
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@Gessler, allow me to toot my own horn. It does feel nice to be proven correct after all these years. I wish the wait had been shorter, but the snail pace of Indian shipbuilding couldn't be helped. Although it took India eight long years to build the INS Visakhapatnam, it still represented a noticeable improvement over preceding Kolkata class, which took an average of 10 years to complete for each unit.

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P.S. Knock on wood. I hope India doesn't miss this latest commissioning deadline.
 
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