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Xsizor

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IAF to Procure 24 Second-hand Mirage 2000 Fighters

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India faces economic crisis as well as inability of defence manufacturers to scale up production. India obtained second hand Jaguars for salvaging earlier. The second hand Mirage purchase may be viewed under the same lens.

I'm quite certain that the many new fighter types India announced is likely to hit the scenes quite later than insisted.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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India faces economic crisis as well as inability of defence manufacturers to scale up production. India obtained second hand Jaguars for salvaging earlier. The second hand Mirage purchase may be viewed under the same lens.

I'm quite certain that the many new fighter types India announced is likely to hit the scenes quite later than insisted.
And yet their unhinge media keeps hyping up their country as some kind of a military Superpower that China is deathly afraid to cross. None of the western analysts seem or willing to eviscerate this hallucination in order to puncture this helium filled balloon called lunacy back into reality. It seems that India is a willing tool to be used as cannon fodders by the west against Chinese military.
 

pmc

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India is not military superpower as it has poor engineering and industrial skills.
India stock market size is bigger than its real GDP. that show maturity of financial system for inflows/outflows. so it give some financial heft for purchases. French will be hoping to sell those extra subs that have developed for Australia.
 

Xsizor

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And yet their unhinge media keeps hyping up their country as some kind of a military Superpower that China is deathly afraid to cross. None of the western analysts seem or willing to eviscerate this hallucination in order to puncture this helium filled balloon called lunacy back into reality. It seems that India is a willing tool to be used as cannon fodders by the west against Chinese military.
Can't criticize India if India gains economic benefits from US for being just aggressive against China, can we? To be frank, from a purely India centric perspective, the current alignment is natural and desperately needed.

The thing to note however is, even though India set up state defence companies like USSR did ( with USSR support and influence), it never completely emulated the USSR approach by raising competing firms. China has them.

Was it a lack of resources? For example, India has HAL - a state firm that builds fighter jets. It apparently has no competitors. China used to have Shenyang and Chengdu. Russia used to have Sukhoi and Mikhoyan.

I don't know why.
 

ansy1968

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Can't criticize India if India gains economic benefits from US for being just aggressive against China, can we? To be frank, from a purely India centric perspective, the current alignment is natural and desperately needed.

The thing to note however is, even though India set up state defence companies like USSR did ( with USSR support and influence), it never completely emulated the USSR approach by raising competing firms. China has them.

Was it a lack of resources? For example, India has HAL - a state firm that builds fighter jets. It apparently has no competitors. China used to have Shenyang and Chengdu. Russia used to have Sukhoi and Mikhoyan.

I don't know why.
@Xsizor Bro can I answer that, from what I see without any serious foreign threat and easy accessibility to purchase weapon abroad the Indian had become complacent, lazy and corrupt. And I can't blame them, I mean who is stupid enough to invade and inherit its problem. Its huge internal problem alone is a deterrent and its standing army and training is good for internal security.
 

pmc

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The thing to note however is, even though India set up state defence companies like USSR did ( with USSR support and influence), it never completely emulated the USSR approach by raising competing firms. China has them.
Merely adding more state defense firms to create competition will not solve the problem. India is losing best and brightest to English speaking world. stock market is already bigger than GDP aka financialization and that GDP itself composed of making virtual products. this is creating rising cost of living without rising standard of living with increasing import dependency.
adding more complex weopon development will create even more waste of skill resources and increased imports as labor is moved away from known sectors of productivity. It will be hard to break this chain.
 

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