Impact of China's rise in the world - Long term predictions (30-50 years)


steel21

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Off-topic but this occurred to me recently while watching Chinese movies and tv dramas. I see a lot of Indian movies and shows like flexing a lot but when it comes to Chinese movies and shows it's almost borderline depressing. It's kinda funny.
Yea, the Indians have tendency of projecting a unreasonable amount of optimism. You can see it in everything they do.


The Chinese are often too self critical, always wondering how others would perceive them.
 

Nutrient

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Good governance is important. But one should not be too sanguine about whether good governance is really a sustainable advantage in the long run from the perspective of economic development.
Before India starts worrying about sustaining good governance, how about getting some in the first place? For example, installing enough sewer pipes throughout the country for its vast population. If India does that, then it can worry about sustaining the unusually good performance.

As I have said, India is a classic Third World society: a thin layer ruling an enormous population of the desperate. The elites have little motivation to improve the lot of the lower castes, as doing so would cause the elites to lose power. Thus India is unlikely to improve much; it is overwhelmingly more likely to stay in the Third World.
 

sndef888

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One thing that worries me in the long term is that China's % of world population will shrink

The biggest factor has been the fact that tropical countries are now liveable due to industrialisation. It used to be that agriculture couldn't exist in the tropics due to thick jungles, but with machines, jungles have turned into farmland and population has exploded.

That's why you see places that were historically irrelevant in like Indonesia, Nigeria, Malaysia (and soon Africa) exploding in population.
 

Richard Santos

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I think most americans would also have exhibited a similar histrionically incredulous reaction, and then guffaw hysterically, if told in 1970 that “even if china doesn’t become the number 2 power in the world in 30-50 years, China would still retain by far the greatest built-in potent to rival America in the long run”.

Some of them would undoubtedly also offer to pretend they didn’t hear it, as a mocking generousity to help those who would suggest such a rediculous thing avoid further embarrassment.

Yet here we are.

History show in the long run, the advantage of a country that by good governance and hard work pulled ahead tend not to be as durable as the urge of a country left behind to exploit all the resource at its disposal to make up the gap.
 

solarz

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I think most americans would also have exhibited a similar histrionically incredulous reaction, and then guffaw hysterically, if told in 1970 that “even if china doesn’t become the number 2 power in the world in 30-50 years, China would still retain by far the greatest built-in potent to rival America in the long run”.

Some of them would undoubtedly also offer to pretend they didn’t hear it, as a mocking generousity to help those who would suggest such a rediculous thing avoid further embarrassment.

Yet here we are.

History show in the long run, the advantage of a country that by good governance and hard work pulled ahead tend not to be as durable as the urge of a country left behind to exploit all the resource at its disposal to make up the gap.

If the Americans were told this in the 1920s, then I would completely agree with them. However, if they were told this in the 1970s, then they are just ignorant.

China in the 1970s already had triple the literacy rate and double the life expectancy it has 20 years ago. It was already building satellites, submarines and nuclear weapons when it didn't even have an airforce or a navy in 1949.

So far, you have demonstrated a complete ignorance of what made China's rise possible, and failed to provide a single reason beyond population trip justify your contention.
 

siegecrossbow

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Yea, the Indians have tendency of projecting a unreasonable amount of optimism. You can see it in everything they do.


The Chinese are often too self critical, always wondering how others would perceive them.

Every top rated comment in new RedEffect videos are Arjun memes now. Streisand-Effect if I've ever seen one.
 

Aniah

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If the Americans were told this in the 1920s, then I would completely agree with them. However, if they were told this in the 1970s, then they are just ignorant.

China in the 1970s already had triple the literacy rate and double the life expectancy it has 20 years ago. It was already building satellites, submarines and nuclear weapons when it didn't even have an airforce or a navy in 1949.

So far, you have demonstrated a complete ignorance of what made China's rise possible, and failed to provide a single reason beyond population trip justify your contention.
He tends to downplay a lot of Chinese history and successes. I just put him on my ignore list after he did this one too many times.
 

james smith esq

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He tends to downplay a lot of Chinese history and successes. I just put him on my ignore list after he did this one too many times.
From a previous post of mine, in response to another commentator’s frustrations:
Maybe, Baseless Assertions would be a more fitting username, here, or Ignore List? Sorry, couldn’t resist!
I think Bltizo might be learning this lesson, too, right now!
 

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