Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy


voyager1

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That decision (integration of American tech) was done not because the Chinese leadership swallowed, hook, line, and sinker the U.S. is all good kool-aid equivalent to globalization kumbaya or something. It was for a mutually assured destruction of both economies with the presumptions that American leadership regardless of whichever party is in power would be reigned in by the American corporate interests who will definitely LOSE TONS OF MONEY, REAL MONEY. Which will also affect American companies to further innovate since they're not going to have that much money to fund their research etc..due to the non existent potential Chinese response.

This latest attempt by the current regime of Joe Biden actually comes off like a desperate move rather than some sort of "gotcha victory." China will undoubtedly suffer but it'll also force the brains in the country to understand the urgency of their situation thus the government's proposals that were resisted both from within the government and from the business community would be f..ng muted.
I agree partially. The issue here is that, the security establishment is winning the war against the commercial interests establishment. You can see that on this ban. This is a total ban on ALL Chinese IT companies.

It seems that the commercial interests won a compromise by the "require government license", but come on, we all know what will happen. The companies will take the message, and after 2-3 (random number)]of years the gov will outright ban these Chinese companies.

This is a problem now because the US companies can more easily and faster remove Chinese IP than the Chinese can remove US IP. This is important because after the US weanes of Chinese IT IP, they will point a loaded gun to China by completely banning Chinese IT IP and also banning US IT IP exports to China.

In that case, the US would be ok, because they removed the tech, and the Chinese would be screwed because they still haven't removed their US tech.

This is a big fuckup and Biden is seriously gunning for China now.

Security establishment is firmly on control with some small opposition from the Commercial interests
 

gelgoog

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This is totally bonkers. The transition costs will not be $10 billion. They will be a LOT more.

What I think will happen is the US government will have to turn a blind eye to most of these occurrences.
Not to mention that even if these companies don't use Chinese company products they will still use Chinese made products domiciled elsewhere.
 

voyager1

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This is totally bonkers. The transition costs will not be $10 billion. They will be a LOT more.

What I think will happen is the US government will have to turn a blind eye to most of these occurrences.
Not to mention that even if these companies don't use Chinese company products they will still use Chinese made products domiciled elsewhere.
This is basically a signal to these companies that the US is.planning to ban Chinese IT companies in the future so they are preparing them now

They dont care how they do it but it will be done somehow
 

hashtagpls

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This is totally bonkers. The transition costs will not be $10 billion. They will be a LOT more.

What I think will happen is the US government will have to turn a blind eye to most of these occurrences.
Not to mention that even if these companies don't use Chinese company products they will still use Chinese made products domiciled elsewhere.

This is basically a signal to these companies that the US is.planning to ban Chinese IT companies in the future so they are preparing them now

They dont care how they do it but it will be done somehow
Are we looking at a ban of Alibaba, DJI, and WeChat?

The reprisals will kill off the american competition since they'll be shut out of the China market, perhaps forever.
Perhaps Anglo America has decided for a world war 3 as their last chance to retain hegemony.

If you think about it, this mentality is typical of anglo free market capitalist liberalism: fuck you, i got mine, pull up the ladder and if i can't have it i'll upend the whole table.
 

styx

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a template for China Strategy against usa
1 reach nuclear parity with usa
2 alliance with russia with chinese presence on the border with Ukraine and Crimea
3 Oppose denuclearization of north korea and on contrary covertly supporting it
4 In case usa deploy intermediate forces on the pacific deploy chinese intermediate forces in south america in venezuela or cuba and little central american pro chinese states.
5 Use an Hybrid warfare strategy against taiwan to weaken it till invasion.
 

Andy1974

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a template for China Strategy against usa
1 reach nuclear parity with usa
2 alliance with russia with chinese presence on the border with Ukraine and Crimea
3 Oppose denuclearization of north korea and on contrary covertly supporting it
4 In case usa deploy intermediate forces on the pacific deploy chinese intermediate forces in south america in venezuela or cuba and little central american pro chinese states.
5 Use an Hybrid warfare strategy against taiwan to weaken it till invasion.
Sounds like a recipe for a nuclear WW3. I’m glad China has more foresight than that.
 

hashtagpls

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I'm convinced now that Blinken is an incompetent moron surpassed only by the sheer ignorance and arrogance and Dunning-Kruger effect of Pompeo.

His arrogant attitude and imperious behaviour could only have elicited nothing other than China's historic response.

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Also, did America's policymakers believe they could lie and sanction Chinese officials and that China would still work with them? ditto with Iran and Russia.
Seems the State Department is filled with fantasists and ppl who still think it's 1995.
 

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