Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy


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"We must also contend with the reality that the distribution of power across the world is changing, creating new threats (a strong dose of Mearsheimer and Gilpin here!). China, in particular, has rapidly become more assertive. It is the only competitor potentially capable of combining its economic, diplomatic, military, and technological power to mount a sustained challenge to a stable and open international system."

"Our democratic alliances enable us to present a common front, produce a unified vision, and pool our strength to promote high standards, establish effective international rules, and hold countries like China to account."

"And we will engage in meaningful dialogue with Russia and China on a range of emerging military technological developments that implicate strategic stability (trying to get China to sign onto nuclear arms reduction treaties so as to cap China's nuclear arsenal?)."

"Taken together, this agenda will strengthen our enduring advantages, and allow us to prevail in strategic competition with China or any other nation. The most effective way for America to out-compete a more assertive and authoritarian China over the long-term is to invest in our people, our economy, and our democracy. By restoring U.S. credibility and reasserting forward-looking global leadership, we will ensure that America, not China, sets the international agenda (these are President Obama's words), working alongside others to shape new global norms and agreements that advance our interests and reflect our values. By bolstering and defending our unparalleled network of allies and partners, and making smart defense investments, we will also deter Chinese aggression and counter threats to our collective security, prosperity, and democratic way of life. At the same time, revitalizing our core strengths is necessary but not sufficient. In many areas, China’s leaders seek unfair advantages, behave aggressively and coercively, and undermine the rules and values at the heart of an open and stable international system. When the Chinese government’s behavior directly threatens our interests and values, we will answer Beijing’s challenge. We will confront unfair and illegal trade practices, cyber theft, and coercive economic practices that hurt American workers, undercut our advanced and emerging technologies, and seek to erode our strategic advantage and national competitiveness. We will ensure that our supply chains for critical national security technologies and medical supplies are secure (specific elements of partial decoupling?). We will continue to defend access to the global commons, including freedom of navigation and overflight rights, under international law. We will position ourselves, diplomatically and militarily, to defend our allies. We will support China’s neighbors and commercial partners in defending their rights to make independent political choices free of coercion or undue foreign influence (But what are the alternatives for these countries? They desperately need railroads, roads, and bridges instead of political shock therapy.). We will promote locally-led development to combat the manipulation of local priorities. We will support Taiwan, a leading democracy and a critical economic and security partner, in line with longstanding American commitments (TRA and strategic ambiguity, or more explicit guarantee to defend Taiwan?). We will ensure that U.S. companies do not sacrifice American values in doing business in China. And we will stand up for democracy, human rights, and human dignity, including in Hong Kong, Xinjiang, and Tibet. On all these issues, we will work to forge a common approach with like minded countries."

"We also recognize that strategic competition does not, and should not, preclude working with China when it is in our national interest to do so. Indeed, renewing America’s advantages ensures that we will engage China from a position of confidence and strength. We will conduct practical, results-oriented diplomacy with Beijing and work to reduce the risk of misperception and miscalculation. We will welcome the Chinese government’s cooperation on issues such as climate change, global health security, arms control, and nonproliferation where our national fates are intertwined. As we do, we will rally our allies and partners to join us, pooling our negotiating leverage and showing our collective power and resolve."
What a bunch of trash. I regret reading this product of furious mental masturbation. Not even themselves must believe most of that crap.
 

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What a bunch of trash. I regret reading this product of furious mental masturbation. Not even themselves must believe most of that crap.
I read comment by that Prof. Micheal Hudson, who is not impressed with the Biden administration.

He is convinced, but still wonders, with Biden is it going to be Obama 3.0 or will be like Trump 2.0?

He probably has a point.

Old people like to watch reruns on the TV, have some familiarity.

:p
 

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Democrats are lowering the income caps for the $1,400 stimulus checks, here are the phase-out levels:
-$75,000 for single filers; capped at $80,000
-$112,500 for heads of households; capped at $120,000
-$150,000 for joint filers; capped at $160,000
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So no $15 min wage hike
2000 check is actually 1400
And instead of 100k cap its now 80k

I think this is sign of peak Brrrrrr
 

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This is a good article, the author argues that there is no way that biden can cooperate with China on climate change while at the same time pursuing a cold war against China

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This is a good article, the author argues that there is no way that biden can cooperate with China on climate change while at the same time pursuing a cold war against China

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America has a habit of not holding its end of the bargain, China must not be naive. Due to Jevons paradox, any progress China makes at expense of its economy will be wiped out by American excesses at the other end, net global climate result is same, but US gains at China's detriment.

This is just like US wanting China to sign a nuclear reduction treaty, its never done in good faith nor with good intentions
 
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America has a habit of not holding its end of the bargain, China must not be naive. Due to Jevons paradox, any progress China makes at expense of its economy will be wiped out by American excesses at the other end, net global climate result is same, but US gains at China's detriment.

This is just like US wanting China to sign a nuclear reduction treaty, its never done in good faith nor with good intentions

The idea that tackling climate change problems necessarily requires economic sacrifice is a lie sold by the capitalist elite.

China is one of the leading forces for environmental protection. What economic sacrifices has China made by turning deserts into forests? By covering other parts of the desert with solar panels? By building wind mills on mountains? By building the HSR?

On the contrary, every one of the above initiatives benefit the economy in some way.
 

bajingan

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The idea that tackling climate change problems necessarily requires economic sacrifice is a lie sold by the capitalist elite.

China is one of the leading forces for environmental protection. What economic sacrifices has China made by turning deserts into forests? By covering other parts of the desert with solar panels? By building wind mills on mountains? By building the HSR?

On the contrary, every one of the above initiatives benefit the economy in some way.

I think the concerns is that the americans might be asking unreasonable emissions reduction from China that might affect its industries
 

solarz

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I think the concerns is that the americans might be asking unreasonable emissions reduction from China that might affect its industries

Who cares what they ask for?

I don't know why you would be worried about China doing something to harm itself. I think it's pretty clear from the Trump trade war that China is not going to agree to anything detrimental to its own interests.
 

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