Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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quantumlight

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Well, these are the same people at Google who supposedly wouldn't implement censorship of search results in China because it was totalitarian, or something, only to do it in the USA years later. Because of their censorship and user profiling I use DuckDuckGo.
That was an act, Google started with CIA seed money, something Q-in-tel, and their first acquistion of keyhole was an intel product then converted and renamed to Google Earth


America is going to turn the earth into a prison planet if China doesnt prevail

 

BlackWindMnt

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You mean In-Q-Tel? The CIA also funded Oracle when they were starting up.
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The whole silicon valley ecosystem has been jumped started by Darpa, intelligence and the US military.
There was a interesting presentation posted about it a few years ago on youtube. Was kinda eye opener as a person growing up in the 90 and early 2000 where silicon valley was portraited as a place of libertarian freedom and creativity xD
 

bajingan

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Many recommendations from Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google, seem to be coming true. Here is a report he has been involved in recently, the China Strategy Group final public report from Fall 2020
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Comment: This report admits that the US cannot beat China one-on-one due to China's larger scale. The report authors state that having scale is critical to the ability to develop new technologies. Therefore, the report authors advocate the US pursue a strategy of alliances to cooperate with a large number of democratic countries and achieve high scale.

Additionally, the report focuses things such as:
(1) improving the US government's manpower and intelligence capabilities to identify important emerging technologies, since due to the unpredictable nature of science and innovation, which technologies are important is hard to identify, especially for government bureaucrats. The report suggests more private-public sector cooperation in this regard, since the private sector often knows better than government in this realm.

(2) Identifying core technologies to defend, or "grasping the large and letting go of the small", since no policy can possibly cover all technology. The criteria they identify for an important technology are (a) Is it a choke point technology or single point of failure for an entire field? e.g. Qualcomm for ZTE (b) Does it lead to a highly defensible competitive advantage? e.g. Is it the type of field where once you get a lead, it is very hard for someone else to catch up? How long does the lead last? A lot of this depends on sheer magnitude of resources. (c) Is the technology a security risk? For example, does it give you the ability to intercept communications or shut off a critical system in wartime? (d) Does the technology accelerate other technologies and the overall rate of technological advance across multiple domains? e.g. semiconductors.

The report says meeting any one of these four criteria means it's a high value technology.

(3) There is a section on how the US can dominate platforms. "Platforms" are defined as products (e.g. Windows OS) where the value is driven by the people using the platform (e.g., app developers), instead of the company that built the platform. They rely on network effects to gain scale. Some examples of valuable and strategic platforms identified in the report are USD settlement, search, social networking, mobile app stores, and messaging apps.

(4) The report also includes a section called "Brain Drain Wars" on human capital. This section calls on the US to address bottlenecks in immigration policy (increase high-skilled immigration), educational systems (direct 10% of STEM funding to teaching; industry-university cooperation; study successful students to see if any unusual factors made them successful) and research environments to foster innovation (reduce cost of living in tech hubs, raise pay for Ph.D's doing basic research, etc.).

So no more arbitary arrests of Chinese scientists in the us? lol
Nevertheless republicans will stymie any democrats pro immigration policy
Thats democrazy for you ;)

In fact any pro immigration policy will risk a trump victory 2024
The main reason why these recommendations will never work in america is elections
These recommendations is long term plan, therefore will never work on deeply divided, polarized, american democrazy
 
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emblem21

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When is the US going to stop abusing the petrodollar hegemony
and when is Biden going to uncensor Alex Jones?

America is the biggest unfair trade violator and also the biggest censor and brainwasher...

This would be funny if it wasn't so evil, saying censorship is a trade issue is basically US telling China that hey we need you to make it easier for our CIA to do color revolution on you... and brainwash your population...
If there is one good part of all this, is that there are those that will stand against this craziness and are not going to budge without a fight. Also to note is that the USA isn’t in the best possible state right now and given how the past has played out, it is USA make a terrible move, China copes it for a few months, pain comes back down the line to hurt the USA and doing real damage that the USA simply ties to ignore as though they haven’t felt it. This simply repeats itself until the USA runs out of juice and when other nations get strong enough to eventually join China to give the USA the beating they have long been begging for.
 

quantumlight

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So no more arbitary arrests of Chinese scientists in the us? lol
Nevertheless republicans will stymie any democrats pro immigration policy
Thats democrazy for you ;)

In fact any pro immigration policy will risk a trump victory 2024
The main reason why these recommendations will never work in america is elections
These recommendations is long term plan, therefore will never work on deeply divided, polarized, american democrazy
Eric said more than a decade ago that as internet gets faster, eventually it becomes the local network. With 5G and etc low latency, the cloud is the pci bus and the local storage/compute

There is no reason US cannot recruit top talent from anywhere in the world, 100% remote work.

Set up a VDI that works in chrome browser and all of a sudden the world is olyster no visa needed

Heck Im playing Hitman and watchdogs at work right in my chrome browser, no download, no install. Got a 10gig pipe, 4k monitor, and low latency... Google Stadia game streaming means I can enjoy rtx real time ray tracing without a graphics card on commodity hardware
 
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