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jimmyjames30x30

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Happy luna new year fron the crew on the CV17.


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It's not Luna. It's actually classified as lunisolar, or to be more precise, Agricultural Calendar.

Anyone with a high school level of astronomy knowledge would know that a calendar that is produced for the sake of agriculture can NOT be lunar based. A solar calendar is dependent upon the position of the earth and its rotational axis in relation to the sun, which affects the surface temperature on the earth. This casual effect gave us the seasons on the earth's surface.

Now, agriculture activities depends heavily upon knowing the surface temperature change of the earth at the locations when the activities takes place over the period of a year (which is the orbiting period of the earth around the sun).

Chinese traditional calendar is mainly a solar calendar as its most important dates include what is called "the 24 Solar Terms" (二十四节气). These terms include "春分"(Vernal Equinox), "夏至" (Summer Solstice), “立秋” (Autumn Equinox), and "冬至" (Winter Solstice).
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You can also use simple reasoning for this.

Q: Why does people need calendar?
A: To meter time in a periodical manner.

Q: What reference frame should they choose to create their periodical meter for time?
A: Whichever suits their main economical and production activity.

Q: What is the main economical and production activity for the majority of people of the historical Chinese civilization?
A: Agriculture, China was traditionally an agrarian civilization.

Q: What reference frame suits an agrarian civilization?
A: Whichever reference frame that allows the agrarian people to measure and know time in a manner that suits agricultural production.

Q: What kind of reference frame suits agricultural production?
A: One that can model (and predict) the most important variables for crop growth. (Solar Calendar, in this case.)

Q: Which variable is the most important variable for crop growth, that can be predicted by a calendar reference frame?
A: Of all the variables that can be predicted by using the solar calendar, the most important variables for crop growth is surface temperature as well as the number of Sun-hours in a day (length of daylight).

Q: Can other type of calendar (for example lunar calendar) also predict the surface temperature as well as the length of daylight as well as the solar calendar?
A: NO

This shows us that any agrarian civilization that want to survive and thrive using a calendar for scheduling of agricultural activities, will NEED to use a type of solar calendar for this purpose. Thus Chinese Traditional Calendar HAS TO BE a solar calendar. Lunisolar Calendar is a type of solar calendar.
 

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It's not Luna. It's actually classified as lunisolar, or to be more precise, Agricultural Calendar.

Anyone with a high school level of astronomy knowledge would know that a calendar that is produced for the sake of agriculture can NOT be lunar based. A solar calendar is dependent upon the position of the earth and its rotational axis in relation to the sun, which affects the surface temperature on the earth. This casual effect gave us the seasons on the earth's surface.

Now, agriculture activities depends heavily upon knowing the surface temperature change of the earth at the locations when the activities takes place over the period of a year (which is the orbiting period of the earth around the sun).

Chinese traditional calendar is mainly a solar calendar as its most important dates include what is called "the 24 Solar Terms" (二十四节气). These terms include "春分"(Vernal Equinox), "夏至" (Summer Solstice), “立秋” (Autumn Equinox), and "冬至" (Winter Solstice).
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You can also use simple reasoning for this.

Q: Why does people need calendar?
A: To meter time in a periodical manner.

Q: What reference frame should they choose to create their periodical meter for time?
A: Whichever suits their main economical and production activity.

Q: What is the main economical and production activity for the majority of people of the historical Chinese civilization?
A: Agriculture, China was traditionally an agrarian civilization.

Q: What reference frame suits an agrarian civilization?
A: Whichever reference frame that allows the agrarian people to measure and know time in a manner that suits agricultural production.

Q: What kind of reference frame suits agricultural production?
A: One that can model (and predict) the most important variables for crop growth. (Solar Calendar, in this case.)

Q: Which variable is the most important variable for crop growth, that can be predicted by a calendar reference frame?
A: Of all the variables that can be predicted by using the solar calendar, the most important variables for crop growth is surface temperature as well as the number of Sun-hours in a day (length of daylight).

Q: Can other type of calendar (for example lunar calendar) also predict the surface temperature as well as the length of daylight as well as the solar calendar?
A: NO

This shows us that any agrarian civilization that want to survive and thrive using a calendar for scheduling of agricultural activities, will NEED to use a type of solar calendar for this purpose. Thus Chinese Traditional Calendar HAS TO BE a solar calendar. Lunisolar Calendar is a type of solar calendar.
Cor! I just wanted to show how the crew on the CV17 celebrate the 農曆新年。Lol

But thanks for the info anyway.
 

jimmyjames30x30

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Cor! I just wanted to show how the crew on the CV17 celebrate the 農曆新年。Lol

But thanks for the info anyway.
Well, me to, I want to wish them a happy Chinese New Year too. let me give you an up vote.

BTW, you did it right this time. "農曆新年" is the right term, it translates to "Agricultural Calendar New Year". There are people who actually incorrectly call it the "陰曆新年"。
 

Bltizo

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By the way, he was so mercilessly mocked by online users for wrongly declaring that CV-17's name was Hunan that he has cleared his Weibo account. His time for pretending to be a big shrimp is over. The fanboys have all turned on him.

The community can be merciless sometimes, but I also think it helps that the system is so self correcting.
 

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