Crisis in the Ukraine

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SampanViking

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Heavy fighting at the Airport today and it looks as though the DPR is finally clearing the facility of Ukrainian forces

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Dannhill

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Let's hope Swiss pressure will be brought to bear to force Kiev to stop shelling residential areas and abide by the terms of the Minsk Accord, pull back all their forces.
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Dannhill

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Women in the Donbas region have came forward to inform OSCE and European investigators that young girls from the age of 12 have been raped by Kiev punitive volunteer battalions.

"Europe recognized that the Battalion "Azov" and "Donbass" raped a 12-year-old girls in the Donbass European experts from the International Monitoring Commission, which operates in the zone of conflict in Ukraine officially recognized crimes law enforcers. Earlier OSCE observers have reported detection of Donetsk some 400 bodies of executed civilians. Now, about the atrocities of security forces said the girl, who told the Europeans, as they were raped Battalion "Azov" and "Donbass". "We were approached by a group of women. They said that mercenaries of the battalions of" Azov "and" Donbass "was part of a group of rape women of the village. victims of abuse become teenage girls 12 years and older women, "- said the representative of the OSCE Ejnars Graudins. 01.10.2014"

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Dannhill

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Short post about the cornered Kiev forces in Donetsk airport are comprised of foreign elements containing Polish as well as Americans. Hence, their stubborn refusal to surrender.

In Donetsk airport, where the locked part of the Ukrainian military, captured by the militia surrendered mercenaries from Poland, and reported. about. Minister of State Security of People's Republic of Donetsk Leonid Baranov. "Mercenaries works (on the Ukrainian security officials) a great many, especially significant in Donetsk airport, the longest-held. There are only professionals, there is not only the Americans, there speak different languages. This information is confirmed, and it is safe to say that there are foreigners who do not give up, "- said Baranov.

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Broccoli

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Russians are one the attack again... doing deals with Russians is pointless because they lie all the time. Now we have to wait and see how Lavrov the Liar spins this one.
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Zool

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Russians are one the attack again... doing deals with Russians is pointless because they lie all the time. Now we have to wait and see how Lavrov the Liar spins this one.
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No denying the Militia is fighting to clear remaining Kiev forces out of Donetsk. It's also true that since the Ceasefire first went into effect, Kiev has continued to shell the Eastern regions, including civilian area's. Hitting that school was just the latest and most flagrant example.

Enough with targeting civilians (in particular after a Ceasefire is reached and they have begun returning home). If Kiev wants to continue the fight, let them send the soldiers back in. Attacking their Eastern compatriots worked out so well before.

After that is sorted, we can get to the nonsense labelling of USA, NATO, Russia and everyone under the sun being liars who lie all the time. East Bad, West Good, ad nauseum. Critical thinking is overrated.
 

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sampan bro, what is the status of the Russo-Ukrainian gas deal? has Russia resumed feeding gas to Ukraine yet?

I am really not sure to be honest. I will have a look in the morning.

In the meantime a 30min video of Motorola Brig fighting at Donetsk Airport - with Eng Subs

[video=youtube_share;xP_ozv0qgXU]http://youtu.be/xP_ozv0qgXU[/video]
 

Equation

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sampan bro, what is the status of the Russo-Ukrainian gas deal? has Russia resumed feeding gas to Ukraine yet?

I am really not sure to be honest. I will have a look in the morning.

This is what I got so far.

Ukraine has saved $500 million by buying gas from Europe instead of Russia, which cut supplies to Kiev earlier this year as part of an acrimonious price dispute, a Ukrainian minister said Friday.

In an interview with Ukrainian TV station Telekanal24, Cabinet Minister Ostap Semerak also said Kiev could rely on "signed agreements for reverse gas supplies" from Europe to see the country through winter if Russia does not renew deliveries.

Also on Friday, Ukraine's gas transit authority, Ukrtransgas, said in a statement that as of Oct. 1, the country's underground storage facilities were half full, and now contain 16.7 billion cubic meters of gas.

Ukraine needs 18 billion cubic meters of gas to last through the winter, Alexei Miller, head of Russia's state-controlled gas export monopoly Gazprom, said last month.

Gazprom halted gas flows to Ukraine in June, claiming Kiev owed $5.3 billion for already delivered gas. Ukraine disputes that figure, saying the company is applying an inflated price.

Several rounds of EU-mediated talks have attempted to solve the dispute. Gazprom is offering Kiev gas at $385 per 1,000 cubic meters, which is what Europe pays on average. It also demands that Ukraine make two debt repayments — $2 billion before the gas flows restart and $1.1 billion by the end of this year. Ukraine has been reluctant to agree both on the price, which was said should equal to European spot gas prices (currently traded around $313 per 1,000 cubic meters but highly volitile), nor to the debt payment terms. No agreement has been reached.

The first reverse supplies — so named because they go against the usual westward flow of Russian gas — were delivered to Ukraine by German energy company RWE in April. Slovakia's Eustream began deliveries at the start of September.

Gazprom appears to be unhappy with this interference — a number of Eastern European countries, including Slovakia, have begun to complain of sporadic shortages in gas supplies from Russia.

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Dannhill

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Saw this and another similar comment in Cassad about Moscow taking away people associated with gathering supplies and uniform for the separatist militia.

Looks like another arm twisting session. This is in conjunction with the post mentioning difficulties in bringing supplies across the checkpoint and delays.

"This afternoon, Moscow police detained and taken to an unknown destination natsbol Oleg Mironov - the organizer of pickets to collect aid of New Russia. This was announced by the coordinator of the capital of Staff Yury Old Believers. Day, October 2, the police and the FSB came with checking into the bunker "Other Russia", which is stored humanitarian aid collected by the National Bolsheviks Donbass. checked the documents, law enforcement officers detained Oleg Mironov from Inta, who was in Moscow on strengthening the Moscow branch. According to police, Mironov had to take to the police station "Zamoskvoreche." However, it was not delivered there and he was unavailable. recall "Other Russia" holds daily pickets to collect aid for the New Russia in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Nizhny Novgorod, Syktyvkar and other Russian cities."
 
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