It appears the link is quite concrete. The Economist's China columnist is son of a former MI6 director. Some of the lead editors in Western media are children of intelligence directors. They know how to play the brainwashing game.
Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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plawolf
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This seems to be part of the new standard grooming and training process for western super elites.
The number of former ‘journalists’ who then move on into senior positions in intelligence and ultimately government is pretty high. The media manipulation skills they learn as ‘journalists’ will serve them well in either profession.
Not to mention journalism gives them diplomatic immunity of sorts.
manqiangrexue
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So having failed at all other attempts to dishearten the Chinese, your CIA handlers told you to see if you can convince us that COVID is a Chinese lab bioweapon? Just like Trump, your moves get worse and worse.
Not strange at all. Humans and chimps share ~99% DNA similarity. Two coronaviruses being 96% is absolutely meaningless; it's like saying that 2 people both have 2 eyes, a nose and a mouth at roughly the same places on their heads so that suggests that they're related.
Doesn't make me uncomfortable at all because I'm not into conspiracy theories with no evidence.
Yeah no. There's no need to discuss an "if" that is nowhere near the plane of truth. Xi Jinping doesn't listen to you.
Tell America. It has no politicians, serving or retired, that are nearly as competent as Xi.
Hanjian like you are a liability for China. Xi is a comrade who always puts the interests of 1.4 billion people first.
No, not really. It's not China's liability to do that at all. When other people accuse you of things, you don't turn your life upside down trying to disprove them. I wouldn't; you might. The correct course of action is to do as China needs for its own growth and ignore the BS because the west will always make up BS to smear China with. Expending real efforts to disprove BS is an endless fools errand.
Not that I believe it's from Detrick, but obviously they didn't release it at home.
Your bull-crap suggesting that it might have originated in China is a serious charge without proof. Even suggesting it is nonsense.
Then shut up and stop wasting bandwidth. If you know that 96% means nothing, then don't say meaningless things.
You have the least credibility here and you started the accusations without proof. We can all say we don't know where it came from but the instant someone says it may have come from a Chinese lab, we say it's from Detrick. Tit for tat for Hanjian like you. You'll never put China on the defensive.
I think efforts are actually ongoing to find the source but it's not China's liability. China should never accept being on the defensive. If anybody wants to make accusations, China can accuse them back. They have no evidence so their accusations can go nowhere.
Right, so stop the BS.
Not even. To be honest, both China and the US are too powerful for there to be hell to pay. If it was proven that it came from either country's biowarfare labs, we'd reach a point where the country shrugs and says, "So what do you wanna do about it?" And the rest of the world would be at a loss for an answer. It's better to not even find out.
No, there's not stakes here for China. If it comes from some bat in China, then whatever. But at no point does any power gain the right to access China's BSL4 lab for an investigation. It's a dead end; it's not true, and even if it were, it can't be proven. The only people screaming with no evidence are those who want to investigate China. They can tear their throats out screaming but they won't get anywhere.
No wonder Gordon Chang had to pull all the stops out on his anti-China rhetoric to get some attention.
He is competing for air-time on western MSM against some hard core intelligence propagandist.
From CDC itself:
~1/3-1/4 of the US has been infected going by ~25 million confirmed cases. That's almost like everyone getting a 25-33% effective vaccine. or 50% of the people getting a 60-80% effective vaccine.
New cases/hospitalizations are slowing down.
If there's no new significant mutations, we can see COVID began to end in the US with the vaccinations and additional infections.
US would call this a victory since they got their "freedums"
~1/3-1/4 of the US has been infected going by ~25 million confirmed cases. That's almost like everyone getting a 25-33% effective vaccine. or 50% of the people getting a 60-80% effective vaccine.
New cases/hospitalizations are slowing down.
If there's no new significant mutations, we can see COVID began to end in the US with the vaccinations and additional infections.
US would call this a victory since they got their "freedums"
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Is this correct? I believe they will also vaccinate some people who already got COVID no? If we push back the chart a bit, herd immunity is reached by september?
This is assuming that no new strains come out. If they get something worse then the previous, then we are all back to square one and then more deaths will follow. This also means that the current vaccines are going to be useless in the long run and then this whole madness goes on indefinitely
I'm not sure if they're focusing on those who haven't got COVID yet.
If they're just vaccinating everyone but not the children, we probably need 200 mil vaccines which would take longer than the chart which seems to assume no overlap.
Regardless, the US (and likely EU&Rest of the Americas as well) isn't far from herd immunity due to total neglect of the situation.
China will need 1 billion+ vaccinated though.
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