Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Gatekeeper

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China should be less worried about whether it will be formally accused than what the truth actually was.

I don't know how Covid-19 started, but isn't it strange that the first outbreak of a coronavirus 96% similar as that found in Yunnan cave bats just happened to occur in the city with two Biosafety labs conducting gain of function research on Yunnan cave bat coronaviruses? Even if they checked their logs and didn't find this strain, it has to make you uncomfortable. A bat is unlikely to just fly all the way from Yunnan into central Wuhan for no reason.

If it turns out that this did come from the lab and it was covered up, then Xi Jinping has no choice but to resign. You can't mess up this bad and still be leader. He's be a liability for China at that point. A single comrade can't be put ahead of the interests of 1.4 billion people.

In any case, if it didn't come from a lab then it's in China's interest to find the real cause of Covid because otherwise these nutcases will keep going on with their conspiracy theories.

You haven't got a clue, have you?

If it did come from a lab, it's most likely come from fort Detrick. It's funny how the outbreak in Wuhan only come after visit by U.S. military personnel?

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gadgetcool5

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If it's from Ft. Detrick, then why was the main outbreak not first in the US?

Are you saying the US deliberately put the virus in China to kill people? You realize that's an act of war right? If China believed that then it would go to war with the US. That's a serious charge to bring up against people without proof.
 

Hendrik_2000

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China should be less worried about whether it will be formally accused than what the truth actually was.

I don't know how Covid-19 started, but isn't it strange that the first outbreak of a coronavirus 96% similar as that found in Yunnan cave bats just happened to occur in the city with two Biosafety labs conducting gain of function research on Yunnan cave bat coronaviruses? Even if they checked their logs and didn't find this strain, it has to make you uncomfortable. A bat is unlikely to just fly all the way from Yunnan into central Wuhan for no reason.

If it turns out that this did come from the lab and it was covered up, then Xi Jinping has no choice but to resign. You can't mess up this bad and still be leader. He's be a liability for China at that point. A single comrade can't be put ahead of the interests of 1.4 billion people.

In any case, if it didn't come from a lab then it's in China's interest to find the real cause of Covid because otherwise these nutcases will keep going on with their conspiracy theories.

96% is not even close enough to accuse covid 19 originated from China. Human and monkey share 90% of DNA genetic material now are you saying Human and monkey are the same? Ridiculous once again showing your clueless and dogmatic attitude toward anything China !

Conspirational theory is dime a dozen and nobody in scientific world think it is possible to engineer Covid 19 DNA
 

gadgetcool5

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I'm not saying the 96% similarity proves anything. In fact, my position is that nothing has been proven.

But if your alternative explanation is Ft. Detrick, no one is taking that seriously outside of China. There is no proof for that either. When you spread accusations without proof, it's loss of credibility. Just like Trump and Pompeo lose credibility when they accuse China of it being from the WIV.

My only position is that China should find the actual cause of Covid-19 with proof that's irrefutable and gets other countries outside China to take it seriously. Right now the Ft. Detrick theory doesn't have any more proof than the WIV theory.
 

j17wang

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China should be less worried about whether it will be formally accused than what the truth actually was.

I don't know how Covid-19 started, but isn't it strange that the first outbreak of a coronavirus 96% similar as that found in Yunnan cave bats just happened to occur in the city with two Biosafety labs conducting gain of function research on Yunnan cave bat coronaviruses? Even if they checked their logs and didn't find this strain, it has to make you uncomfortable. A bat is unlikely to just fly all the way from Yunnan into central Wuhan for no reason.

If it turns out that this did come from the lab and it was covered up, then Xi Jinping has no choice but to resign. You can't mess up this bad and still be leader. He's be a liability for China at that point. A single comrade can't be put ahead of the interests of 1.4 billion people.

In any case, if it didn't come from a lab then it's in China's interest to find the real cause of Covid because otherwise these nutcases will keep going on with their conspiracy theories.

And if it happens that intelligence points to COVID-19 in fact originating from a US lab, as American theorists pointed out in early February?

Surely you must agree that Trump and all sitting republican members of congress should be tried for crimes against humanity. And that is to say nothing of the trillions in reparations that should be extracted from the US for both these crimes as well as its invasions and wars of almost every sovereign country?

The US had a history of conducting biological warfare against the natives, as well as its African American population through the syphilis studies in the 20th century. This type of behavior is not only unusual but rather should be entirely expected from the american empire.
 

gadgetcool5

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Sure, if it originated in a US lab, then there's hell to pay for the US government. I just haven't seen anything besides conspiracy theories.

I'm not here to trigger people, either. This investigation is going to be a serious high stakes matter for China and especially Xi Jinping. The CPC needs to bring out more evidence and bigger guns than just screaming Ft. Detrick with no evidence.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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Sure, if it originated in a US lab, then there's hell to pay for the US government. I just haven't seen anything besides conspiracy theories.

I'm not here to trigger people, either. This investigation is going to be a serious high stakes matter for China and especially Xi Jinping. The CPC needs to bring out more evidence and bigger guns than just screaming Ft. Detrick with no evidence.
In that regard, we will have to wait until the 24th of May since the 74th World Health Assembly is going to run from that day until the 1st of June. The WHA is where the WHO officially makes its decisions and the Chinese delegation can present their evidence there if they have any. If I remember correctly, the ongoing Wuhan investigation by the WHO was officially proposed and accepted during the assembly.
 
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