Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[RedMetalSeadramon]

These guys who are still supportive with lockdowns.
How do you guys dealing with your social life? You stopped eating outside? Working in home-office and not meeting family and friends?

I have some friends working in a hospital. They said, these people who died due Covid would also dying from other diseases, they were really sick like diabetes, fat people, unhealthy lifestyle. And we know that Chinese people are more healthier than the people in the west.

Let´s have a look how man cases Germany got.
36,4 Mio. cases and probably much more due of asymptomatic cases. I know many people, they didn´t know they had Covid, just after the test.
From the official numbers around 157000 people died. That is less than 0,44% and maybe it is even less. They estimate that the numbers from the 157000 dead people around 50-80% are false. The question is death with or due Covid.

How it is even possible that the death rate is lower than at the beginning of Covid? It´s not only because of the delta or omicron variant, my brother had both and he said it was exactly the same.
In the beginning they marked in the documents death due Covid, it doesn´t matter if the person had a car accident or the operation failed, just because they had Covid in their blood. I also heard stories, they offers for some family members 5000Euro, if they are agree that the person is death with Covid. Don´t know from who these money came from, I can imagine it was from Pfizer, Moderna or Biontech just to push the numbers high, that the people are willing to get vaccine.

We know that is not a coincidence, that just a short time after the outbreak they released the vaccines, where it takes ages for the development.
The whole mRNA stuff are the biggest Scam, they make a damn money with it.

I know more than 100 people having Covid already, each from them are still alive. On the other side I know 4 death people due vaccine or 2 people with health issues.


I would suggest China to open up, wearing mask in public transportation and closed rooms, invest more money in health care and build up many hospital beds.

This reads like someone who has no idea what China's actual covid policies are. Lockdowns are not overwhelming nor unanimous, they are enforced to various degree based on specific infection numbers and do not last forever.

Educate yourself before making these sort of comments

 

[TK3600]

To those who are against lock downs, look at the CIA funded protest in urumuqi. If American want you to open, you know it is a bad idea.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1596762108330659840

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

These guys who are still supportive with lockdowns.
How do you guys dealing with your social life? You stopped eating outside? Working in home-office and not meeting family and friends?

I have some friends working in a hospital. They said, these people who died due Covid would also dying from other diseases, they were really sick like diabetes, fat people, unhealthy lifestyle. And we know that Chinese people are more healthier than the people in the west.

Let´s have a look how man cases Germany got.
36,4 Mio. cases and probably much more due of asymptomatic cases. I know many people, they didn´t know they had Covid, just after the test.
From the official numbers around 157000 people died. That is less than 0,44% and maybe it is even less. They estimate that the numbers from the 157000 dead people around 50-80% are false. The question is death with or due Covid.

How it is even possible that the death rate is lower than at the beginning of Covid? It´s not only because of the delta or omicron variant, my brother had both and he said it was exactly the same.
In the beginning they marked in the documents death due Covid, it doesn´t matter if the person had a car accident or the operation failed, just because they had Covid in their blood. I also heard stories, they offers for some family members 5000Euro, if they are agree that the person is death with Covid. Don´t know from who these money came from, I can imagine it was from Pfizer, Moderna or Biontech just to push the numbers high, that the people are willing to get vaccine.

We know that is not a coincidence, that just a short time after the outbreak they released the vaccines, where it takes ages for the development.
The whole mRNA stuff are the biggest Scam, they make a damn money with it.

I know more than 100 people having Covid already, each from them are still alive. On the other side I know 4 death people due vaccine or 2 people with health issues.


I would suggest China to open up, wearing mask in public transportation and closed rooms, invest more money in health care and build up many hospital beds.

I have never worked a single day from home due to my job. I already have to wear mask, gloves, goggles, hair net and lab coat minimum for uncontrolled lab areas, and in a cleanroom, a full cleanroom suit and boots. So wearing merely a mask outdoors? Great, I wear something far worse all the time.

At the office area we are spaced far apart and have always had desk dividers. But just to avoid risk, I move to an empty conference room if possible. I never take my mask off except when I drink tea then I step away from people, and send emails more than talk. I heat my food using the cafeteria microwave or get preordered food at restaurants (both masked), then take it to my desk, car, outside seating or an empty conference room.

Some colleagues of mine say that I am too extreme. But it takes only 1 risk to result in a lifetime of suffering. Just as if you hit your head against a wall in frustration, and you hit your eye, you can go blind from a single moment of indiscretion.

 

[s002wjh]

From members from the US and Canada who are not even Chinese to claim that they know better, it is just laughable. I mean over one million deaths in the US is no big deal.

No one is trying to eliminate the virus anymore. But you would be blind to not see that there are still 300 deaths per day for the US even after the one millions and boosted and reinfected multiple times. The so called lighter approach pretty much mean woke culture and other BS from the West and conspiracies theories and rejection of science.

The same people that still daydreaming about revolution. If China could be overthrown due to such nonsense, then it deserves to be overthrown.

most die are those who are not vaccinated. if you get the booster in oct etc, the chance of dying is low. The #1 cause of death is heart disease, even traffic death is in the top. if you live in US or rest of the world, life went on as normal now. If there is zero covid policy in US now, there probably will be a civil war. The country still have zero covid policy is China and North Korea. Its an endemic now.
along with testing, build more ICU, boost vaccination rate, masking in public etc to reduce the chance of dying due to covid. Long term zero covid not only bad for economy, but social life as well. The longer its in place, the more protest will happen, its not sustainable.

 

[KYli]

most die are those who are not vaccinated. if you get the booster in oct etc, the chance of dying is low. The #1 cause of death is heart disease, even traffic death is in the top. if you live in US or rest of the world, life went on as normal now. If there is zero covid policy in US now, there probably will be a civil war. The country still have zero covid policy is China and North Korea. Its an endemic now.
along with testing, build more ICU, boost vaccination rate, masking in public etc to reduce the chance of dying. Long term zero covid not only bad for economy, but social life as well. The longer its in place, the more protest will happen, its not sustainable.

Initially, that's true. However, it is no longer the case for sometime already. Many people die now have been boosted. I won't argue that the US can't continue lockdown but it doesn't excuse them for doing a very poor job in response to covid. Many unnecessary deaths could be avioded no matter how you sugarcoat it.

Who said anything about continuing zero covid long term. As I said before, it is no longer feasible due to the fact that the central government no longer wanted to enforce a very long quarantine for arrivals and nationwide lockdown. However, it doesn't mean you can just open up without a long transition period. You can't have uncontrolled spike of cases that could cause collapse of hospitals like Hong Kong and Japan experienced just a few months ago. If that happened, China would be much worse shape than many other smaller countries simply due to its enormous population.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

most die are those who are not vaccinated. if you get the booster in oct etc, the chance of dying is low. The #1 cause of death is heart disease, even traffic death is in the top. if you live in US or rest of the world, life went on as normal now. If there is zero covid policy in US now, there probably will be a civil war. The country still have zero covid policy is China and North Korea. Its an endemic now.
along with testing, build more ICU, boost vaccination rate, masking in public etc to reduce the chance of dying due to covid. Long term zero covid not only bad for economy, but social life as well. The longer its in place, the more protest will happen, its not sustainable.

I have been in personal zero COVID since March 2020. I haven't gone anywhere except work (while fully masked, social distanced, no talking, no eating), home and grocery store. I don't go to restaurant, bar, concert, out with friends, visit family, nothing.

Why? Because I'm not a little snowflake that whines like a 5 year old child about not being allowed to play outside for a short amount of time. I understand that my indiscretion can cause not only my personal suffering but the suffering of infinite others.

 

[zgx09t]

Nice 'no deal' proposal when it doesn't affect your life, isn't it?

I want to buy your tears, 1ml for US$ 1,000.00, nice deal, or no deal?

 

[Gloire_bb]

I want to buy your tears, 1ml for US$ 1,000.00, nice deal, or no deal?

No prob, but you'll have to come to Beijing for them. ;p

 

[KYli]

Nice 'no deal' proposal when it doesn't affect your life, isn't it?



5 yr old snowflakes of 2020 within a month will be 8 ...

Who said it doesn't affect me? It is just that I care about my family, friends and relatives enough to minimize the danger activities of spreading the virus.

 

[Quan8410]

Can you say Jai hind real slow?

What is even Jai hind? I'm completely serious in what I said. Zero covid is the only way to go. I'm all heart and mind in Zero Covid as the cases is still rising non-stop. Government should step up the game and do what should be done. You go hard to control the virus or just let it spread like wildfire? It worked in Wuhan. It worked in Shanghai (although the government messed up initially). Now you clearly see what should be done.