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OppositeDay

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Aerosolized CanSino vaccine are being offered in Xuzhou, Jiangsu as booster to inactivated vaccines.

CanSino has partnered Jiangsu CDC multiple times in the past. Whether this will lead to national rollout remains to be seen. Currently there is no Phase III data on the aerosolized version of CanSino.
 

Tyler

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Walvax's Phase I data is finally published in a peer-reviewed journal. The data is good, but not amazing. Roughly on par with Clover or BNT-Pfizer.

People are overestimating the importance of mRNA vaccines. The most important vaccine data to watch for China's COVID strategy is the Phase III data for Sinopharm's second generation broad spectrum protein vaccine.
How is Sinopharm's second generation broad spectrum protein vaccine better?
 

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THE NEW YORK TIMES

China’s Zero-Covid Policy Is a Pandemic Waiting to Happen


  • The article's main thrusts are that China's zero-covid policy is a fool's errand that must be stopped.
  • China’s current policy will be an economic burdensome to the system and people
  • China must consider copying western countries systems that "succeeded" in containing the latest covid-19 virus (Omicron) like Germany, Australia to name a few in order for China to keep supplying the world economies with China export products and to avoid possible disruption to any of the country's essential supply logistics.
  • Most importantly, China MUST BUY WESTERN MADE VACCINES LIKE PFIZER, MODERNA if it wants to control, contain the latest virus SINCE CHINESE MADE VACCINES ARE NOT ONLY INFERIOR BUT CRIMINALLY INEFFECTIVE, otherwise the process of closing, lockdown cities no matter how small the outbreak will bring forth calamitous outcome to the country by overwhelming it's medical systems and hospitals.
You can read the whole propaganda piece from an apparent medical experts more like stenographers for the western pharmaceutical companies desperately wanting to taste the Chinese money on the link below.


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"Alarmingly, epidemiological research on a sizable number of the people infected with Omicron in Tianjin found that about 95 percent of them had been fully vaccinated with the Chinese vaccines."


Those scientists/experts who wrote the news article were being very irresponsible in making the kind of misleading statement as above.

If let's say 100% of the pool of people were fully vaccinated, you're going to find 100% of those infected to be fully vaccinated and 0% of them unvaccinated since none of them were unvaccinated, to begin with.

Using the famous Attack Rate formula with 95% percent of the infected being found to be vaccinated, and assuming 99% of that population pool of people in the city were vaccinated, the vaccine efficacy in preventing infection actually comes out to 81%! (very respectable for the Omicron variant.)
 
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supersnoop

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How is Sinopharm's second generation broad spectrum protein vaccine better?

Here is some news about it
Only approved for use in UAE at the moment
They seem fairly enthusiastic about it, I think part of it is economic as well.
It is the only 2nd gen vaccine available right now.
Pfizer and Moderna seemingly have an empty pipeline (recommending 4th shots of the same thing)
UAE factories have production rights, so they will be able to export as soon as approvals are secured elsewhere
 

Phead128

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Headlines from your friendly western media, on the same time.
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An 9/11 attack every day in the US from the "mild" Omicron variant, and US media would rather criticizes China for not contributing their "fair share of Chinese deaths", than criticize their own US non-existent response.

Sounds about right for these Deranged Imperialists.
 

AndrewS

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Here is some news about it
Only approved for use in UAE at the moment
They seem fairly enthusiastic about it, I think part of it is economic as well.
It is the only 2nd gen vaccine available right now.
Pfizer and Moderna seemingly have an empty pipeline (recommending 4th shots of the same thing)
UAE factories have production rights, so they will be able to export as soon as approvals are secured elsewhere

When you say 2nd gen, is that tailored against Omicron or Delta?
 

SanWenYu

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When you say 2nd gen, is that tailored against Omicron or Delta?
It's a "broad spectrum" vaccine. It's an evolution from the 1st gen vaccine thus called 2nd gen.

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该新冠疫苗针对多种变异毒株具有广谱保护效力。

研发团队在第一代重组蛋白新冠疫苗的基础上,通过对各种变异株的免疫逃逸能力和进化规律进行全面分析评估,全新设计开发了第二代重组蛋白新冠疫苗。
 
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