Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)


ht1688

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I agree with the WHO. Viruses/variants shouldn't be called based on the location they have been derected.
My only issue is people are identifying these strains via greek alphabets EXCEPT for the original strain, which they have no problem referring to as the "Wuhan strain". Intentionally or not, the only strain now still associated with location is the one first identified in China.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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When can China returns to normalcy i.e. abandons the Zero Covid Policy? Zhong Nanshan clarifies.

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Fatality rate is one thing, but long haul damage from infection is another. The long haul damage is bad enough that it can prevent a person from working. Consequently, that can harm the economy. I wonder how effective the vaccines are against such a phenomenon.
 

Phead128

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Fatality rate is one thing, but long haul damage from infection is another. The long haul damage is bad enough that it can prevent a person from working. Consequently, that can harm the economy. I wonder how effective the vaccines are against such a phenomenon.
Vaccinated individuals have lower risk of long haul symptoms compares to unvaccinated. Usually long haul symptoms is the result of hyperactive or overreacting immune system that tries to kill the virus and inadvertent damages healthy organs too. Vaccines help acclimate the immune system so it can be more targeted in it's response instead of attacking everything.
 

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When can China returns to normalcy i.e. abandons the Zero Covid Policy? Zhong Nanshan clarifies.

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Translation: COVID will end when COVID-19 becomes flu-like fatality rate and COVID-19 has less transmissibilty than the flu (r0 1-1.5)....achievable when mass vaccination (preferably with boosters) occurs.

In reality, the gov't can force everyone to get mRNA boosters and then declare the COVID-19 has flu-like fatality because it controls the numerator and denominator data. It's going to be like Trump/DeSantis data manipulation, but atleast you manipulate AFTER everyone gets vaccinated, not before like Trump/DeSantis did.
 

taxiya

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"Great news" for mRNA vaccine worshippers. :cool:

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Key points:

At least 13 people in Oslo have been infected with the Omicron variant of the coronavirus following a corporate Christmas party described as a "super spreader event", and their numbers could rise to over 60 cases, authorities said on Friday.

"Our working hypothesis is that at least half of the 120 participants were infected with the Omicron variant during the party. This makes this, for now, the largest Omicron outbreak outside South Africa."

The first person in Oslo confirmed as infected had attended the party, where at least one employee had just returned from South Africa. All the attendees were fully vaccinated and had tested negative before the event.


Background:
Norway primarily use comirnaty (Pfizer/Biontech) mRNA. It stopped AC early on due to the blood-clout.

What we get:
120 people fully vaccinated by presumably mRNA. 13 people confirmed infected so far, that is 11%. Authority expects over 60 eventually will be confirmed to be infected, that is over 50%. What is that efficacy? This is real life, not statistic.
 

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