Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Bellum_Romanum

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In other news cominf from our friends and bastion of journalistic integrity, the BBC just recently issued their report card on the Asian star countries that handled the Covid-19 pandemic the best and just like the lying b..ch and propaganda it has become, China the mainland, apparently does not exist, since the province where the leader speaks perfect vegetable English is somehow credited with their handling of Covid-19.


 

Sardaukar20

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In other news cominf from our friends and bastion of journalistic integrity, the BBC just recently issued their report card on the Asian star countries that handled the Covid-19 pandemic the best and just like the lying b..ch and propaganda it has become, China the mainland, apparently does not exist, since the province where the leader speaks perfect vegetable English is somehow credited with their handling of Covid-19.


The actual BBC article:
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Basically this article is about these 'example countries and regions' have done well initially, but are now falling behind on vaccination.

Like this paragraph:
Meanwhile, many other parts of the world appear to be surging ahead with vaccinations and are beginning to gradually open up again. That means that many of these poster boys of Covid containment are now facing criticism that they don't have a solid plan to get out of their zero-case approach - and that they can't hide from the world forever.

This is so factually wrong. It's like as if these are the only countries in the Asia Pacific. They've forgotten about THE biggest country in Asia Pacific. Yeah, that big red one:
The US and Europe for instance have vaccinated around half or more of their populations and many South American countries have administered millions of Covid shots. These nations are now slowly working their way to a vaccination level that will allow them to open up - even with the virus still around.
This has not been the case with the Covid success places in the Asia Pacific.

Well funny enough, the BBC still had the courtesy to call Taiwan an 'island':
The percentage of people vaccinated is still below a quarter of the population - and that's for rich countries like Australia, Japan, New Zealand and the island of Taiwan where you would expect procurement to be as easy or difficult as for Europe and the US.

The BBC even has the cheek to compare Singapore to India! :rolleyes: So what if India had vaccinated more people than Singapore? There is just no comparison. Plus, the global South would have been so screwed if India was the only supplier of vaccines outside of the West!
The only exception to that poor showing is Singapore, where some 42% have received at least one shot.
Singapore however is a city state with just over 5 million people, so the actual number of shots given remains small. Compare that, for example, to India's 250 million doses.

Overall, this article is pure BS. For those of us not living in the bubble of the BBC, there is a country in the Asia Pacific that did contain Covid-19 well, and at the same time vaccinated its population rapidly. ;) Even better, that unmentioned country is doing the opposite of hoarding vaccines like the UK and the West.:cool: Not mentioning that country only further confirms the dustbin-level of journalism the BBC is.
 

HybridHypothesis

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An excellent thread on the various lab accidents at Fort Detrick, including, but not limited to

1) a boiler explosion (partially) incinerating several tons of animal carcasses
2) transport of active biological agents in trash bags
3) "malfunctioning of solid and liquid waste treatment"
4) "Possible contamination of Flu vaccine chain of production (NOT documented), which spreads the Ro thru US army who happens to have a massive european exercise with personnel positionned."


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It just so happens that the same CDC lab that produces "seed strains" for flu vaccines was apparently contaminated with coronavirus, summer 2019?

The same vaccines that were given to US Army soldiers?

Just prior to their participation in SEVERAL world military games / exercises?


"But lab accidents are impossible"

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In addition, a 2015 paper by Ralph Baric (funny how this guy keeps popping up) documents a coronavirus with the novel PRRAR furin cleavage site.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology provided the wild type strain of the virus, which was subsequently manipulated by Baric and Gilead.

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I believe the biggest reason why the US played along with China in suppressing the true nature of the virus is because of the hand America had in making it.
 
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PeregrineFalcon

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When people religiously believe in something, all bets are off.
Once something turns into a "religion" it becomes very difficult to change the "believers" mind. If the "belief" itself is intertwined with a person's sense of self, ego, mental deficiencies etc it becomes an almost impossible task to get the person to see an alternate view as more truthful or better unless something larger and immediate shocks the person.
 

Sardaukar20

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BBC journalist Nicholas Watt is being harrassed by anti-lockdown protesters outside of Westminster. Don't like them both. But I think this shows how much the BBC is truly regarded within its own country. Look! Even the London Police couldn't lift a hand to help him! LOL! BBC dirtbag reporters like John Sudworth for all his drama, gets nothing like this in Communist China! LOL!
 

plawolf

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The actual BBC article:
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Basically this article is about these 'example countries and regions' have done well initially, but are now falling behind on vaccination.

Like this paragraph:


This is so factually wrong. It's like as if these are the only countries in the Asia Pacific. They've forgotten about THE biggest country in Asia Pacific. Yeah, that big red one:


Well funny enough, the BBC still had the courtesy to call Taiwan an 'island':


The BBC even has the cheek to compare Singapore to India! :rolleyes: So what if India had vaccinated more people than Singapore? There is just no comparison. Plus, the global South would have been so screwed if India was the only supplier of vaccines outside of the West!


Overall, this article is pure BS. For those of us not living in the bubble of the BBC, there is a country in the Asia Pacific that did contain Covid-19 well, and at the same time vaccinated its population rapidly. ;) Even better, that unmentioned country is doing the opposite of hoarding vaccines like the UK and the West.:cool: Not mentioning that country only further confirms the dustbin-level of journalism the BBC is.
Western propaganda is pretty hilarious at times.

They could not stop mentioning China whenever anything bad happens, real or imaginary (nuclear powerplant total non-story getting massive coverage and hype as the most recent example), but when it comes to Covid, they act as if China doesn’t exist.

But just look at the relieved glee at how the reported on India, and now the ‘failing containment’ of East Asian model countries and can you easily see the reporting frenzy that would have happened had China bungled its covid response.
 

vincent

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Western propaganda is pretty hilarious at times.

They could not stop mentioning China whenever anything bad happens, real or imaginary (nuclear powerplant total non-story getting massive coverage and hype as the most recent example), but when it comes to Covid, they act as if China doesn’t exist.

But just look at the relieved glee at how the reported on India, and now the ‘failing containment’ of East Asian model countries and can you easily see the reporting frenzy that would have happened had China bungled its covid response.
Western MSM employed lots of Indian "journalists"
 

ansy1968

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@hashtagpls bro hope your relatives in Taiwan are safe, My sister and her family are hunkering down and refused to be vaccinated, they don't trust the gov't and are taking precaution.


from qwerrty (Pakistan Defense Forum)

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Local governments report 28 deaths after AstraZeneca jabs in Taiwan
Taiwan News

4-5 minutes


TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — Over the past four days, 28 elderly people in eight cities and counties across Taiwan were reported to have died after receiving the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, but whether there is a direct causal relationship between the vaccinations and the deaths has yet to be determined.

On Tuesday (June 15), Taiwan began inoculating its citizens with 1.24 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine that was donated by Japan on June 4. The first group prioritized to receive shots was people aged 85 and above.

However, in just four days, there have been more than two dozen cases of elderly vaccine recipients suddenly dying after receiving their first dose of the vaccine. As of 8 a.m. on Friday (June 18), there were 28 such cases reported, with Taichung City reporting the most at six deaths, according to
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When questioned about the apparent surge in deaths following inoculations at the Legislative Yuan on Thursday (June 17), Health Minister and Central Epidemic Command Center head Chen Shih-chung (陳時中) said that whether there is a direct causal relationship still remains to be investigated. He then emphasized "the advantages outweigh the disadvantages" and called on the public to continue to get vaccinated.

As of Friday, health departments in 12 cities and counties had reported sudden deaths following AZ jabs, including: three in Taipei City, five in New Taipei City, three in Taoyuan City, two in Hsinchu City, one in Hsinchu County, six in Taichung City, one in Changhua County, two in Yunlin County, one in Chiayi City, one in Tainan City, one in Kaohsiung City, and two in Pingtung County.

The ages of the 28 recipients who were reported dead ranged between 60 and 97. Of these recipients, 14 had long-term chronic illnesses, such as kidney failure, diabetes, high blood pressure, and heart disease, while the health history of the other eight is not yet known.

The recipients experienced coughing, fever, vomiting, a drop in blood pressure, dizziness, nausea, coma, sputum, delirium, shortness of breath, and foaming at the mouth before their deaths. Five patients went into a coma before their vital signs ceased.

In response to the deaths reportedly occurring after receiving AstraZeneca vaccines, CECC Spokesman Chuang Jen-hsiang (莊人祥) on Thursday (June 17)
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that according to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), 11 deaths following an AstraZeneca jab have been reported in Taiwan, eight of which occurred in persons over the age of 75.

Chuang said the vast majority of the deceased were elderly people who had been suffering from chronic diseases. He said that autopsies of two patients showed that one suffered from arterial obstructive cardiovascular disease and acute myocardial infarction, while the other had arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease, with serious blockages in three arteries.

Chuang stated that based on statistics, it's expected that an average of 200 people over the age of 75 will die every day. In the case of the U.K., there have been
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reported as having resulted from an adverse reaction to the AstraZeneca vaccine out of 24.5 million doses delivered as of June 2, he pointed out.

He stated that apparent adverse reactions after injections could be due to the shots or related to the patient's condition. "It could just be a coincidence that the adverse event occurred just after vaccination," said Chuang.

He said the causes of death in these recent cases needs to be investigated and clarified. Chuang pledged the CECC will continue to monitor adverse events following jabs, and he called on the public to rest assured the vaccines are safe.

Chuang stressed that thus far, there have been no deaths directly attributed to any COVID-19 vaccine in Taiwan.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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@hashtagpls bro hope your relatives in Taiwan are safe, My sister and her family are hunkering down and refused to be vaccinated, they don't trust the gov't and are taking precaution.


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Local governments report 28 deaths after AstraZeneca jabs in Taiwan
Taiwan News

4-5 minutes


TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — Over the past four days, 28 elderly people in eight cities and counties across Taiwan were reported to have died after receiving the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, but whether there is a direct causal relationship between the vaccinations and the deaths has yet to be determined.

On Tuesday (June 15), Taiwan began inoculating its citizens with 1.24 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine that was donated by Japan on June 4. The first group prioritized to receive shots was people aged 85 and above.

However, in just four days, there have been more than two dozen cases of elderly vaccine recipients suddenly dying after receiving their first dose of the vaccine. As of 8 a.m. on Friday (June 18), there were 28 such cases reported, with Taichung City reporting the most at six deaths, according to
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.

When questioned about the apparent surge in deaths following inoculations at the Legislative Yuan on Thursday (June 17), Health Minister and Central Epidemic Command Center head Chen Shih-chung (陳時中) said that whether there is a direct causal relationship still remains to be investigated. He then emphasized "the advantages outweigh the disadvantages" and called on the public to continue to get vaccinated.

As of Friday, health departments in 12 cities and counties had reported sudden deaths following AZ jabs, including: three in Taipei City, five in New Taipei City, three in Taoyuan City, two in Hsinchu City, one in Hsinchu County, six in Taichung City, one in Changhua County, two in Yunlin County, one in Chiayi City, one in Tainan City, one in Kaohsiung City, and two in Pingtung County.

The ages of the 28 recipients who were reported dead ranged between 60 and 97. Of these recipients, 14 had long-term chronic illnesses, such as kidney failure, diabetes, high blood pressure, and heart disease, while the health history of the other eight is not yet known.

The recipients experienced coughing, fever, vomiting, a drop in blood pressure, dizziness, nausea, coma, sputum, delirium, shortness of breath, and foaming at the mouth before their deaths. Five patients went into a coma before their vital signs ceased.

In response to the deaths reportedly occurring after receiving AstraZeneca vaccines, CECC Spokesman Chuang Jen-hsiang (莊人祥) on Thursday (June 17)
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that according to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), 11 deaths following an AstraZeneca jab have been reported in Taiwan, eight of which occurred in persons over the age of 75.

Chuang said the vast majority of the deceased were elderly people who had been suffering from chronic diseases. He said that autopsies of two patients showed that one suffered from arterial obstructive cardiovascular disease and acute myocardial infarction, while the other had arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease, with serious blockages in three arteries.

Chuang stated that based on statistics, it's expected that an average of 200 people over the age of 75 will die every day. In the case of the U.K., there have been
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reported as having resulted from an adverse reaction to the AstraZeneca vaccine out of 24.5 million doses delivered as of June 2, he pointed out.

He stated that apparent adverse reactions after injections could be due to the shots or related to the patient's condition. "It could just be a coincidence that the adverse event occurred just after vaccination," said Chuang.

He said the causes of death in these recent cases needs to be investigated and clarified. Chuang pledged the CECC will continue to monitor adverse events following jabs, and he called on the public to rest assured the vaccines are safe.

Chuang stressed that thus far, there have been no deaths directly attributed to any COVID-19 vaccine in Taiwan.
Replace Oxford-Astrazenica vaccines death with Sinovac or Sinopharm and that vegetable b..ch or a man wouldn't be this rationale or scientifically sound with the explanation. The unfortunate deaths would have been quickly attributed to the "low quality" or worse "deliberate" plans by the Red Commies to kill the heavenly Taiwanese for the eventual takeover of the land and or some other crazy s..t these losers will come up with.

Come to think about, if China did purposely leaked the vaccine, or knowing that they are in a possession of such a game changing bio weapon, they could have easily just used the vaccine in Xinjiang to deal with those pesky terrorists problems and to Taiwan to create instability, panic, and mistrust to their government that Taiwanese people would have called for assistance and help from the mainland which would have been a more desirable scenario compared to forcefully reincorporating the island back.
 
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