Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

In4ser

Junior Member
If you want to have a laugh, read the "Global Health Security Index". You may have seen this chart trending on twitter a few months ago:
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You can laugh at the report here:
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They have no shame. Despite being amongst the worst countries in 2020 containing COVID, the Anglo-Americans are now thumbing their nose at the rest of the world about their public health (which is solely due to access to vaccines). The State Department has listed most of the world as a Level 4 Travel Advisory Warning of "Do not travel" (including Canada, Mexico, and EU) and the UK is outright mocking the EU's issues with getting vaccines.
 

getready

Senior Member
@Xsizor

Note that Vietnam is also a Confucian state like China, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan.

In all these places, when the government makes a "request", people actually listen
I like to add singapore too being Confucian state but that was probably more true 20 years ago or more. When LKY famously praised "Asian values". Now Singapore is closer to western capitalistic society, money money money status status status rules.


And I am not an expert in south Korea or Japan, but aren't Confucian values over there becoming less and less important.
 

NiuBiDaRen

Brigadier
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I like to add singapore too being Confucian state but that was probably more true 20 years ago or more. When LKY famously praised "Asian values". Now Singapore is closer to western capitalistic society, money money money status status status rules.


And I am not an expert in south Korea or Japan, but aren't Confucian values over there becoming less and less important.
I think S Korea and Japan are better. Singapore and Hong Kong are a bit like this
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Unfortunate legacy of being English-speaking colonies mean you imbibe Western concepts more helplessly. Even Taiwan is slightly better off.
 

Gatekeeper

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Wow

You can't make this sxxt up. This sxxt show just got better. I was watching this on the British bullsxxt corporation otherwise known as the BBC.

And their entire propaganda machine went overdrive. That creep Dominic Babbs taking centre stage basking in this limelight, trying his hardest to look prime ministerial for when Boris steps down. But only succeeding on how awkward he looks standing on the stairs, all looking like stiff dummies that they are.

The U.S. President was right when he said, "that Britain has lost an empire and is trying to find a role for itself". And this personify when Babbs trying to present Great Britain as is still an important country!

There were louding how it is the "richest" 7 nations in the world having a meeting (in another word, how impotant these 7 countries are to the world). Lol

On what defination? On GDP? Well, where's China? On GDP per capita? Then where's Norway? On PPP? Then where's China again?

And then they went on to say these 7 countries are making a stand against "authitarian" countries. (No mention about arms sales to Saudis then). Then under the same breadth, announced that India and South Africa was also invited! Lol

On top of this, the trade Minster, Liz Truss announced trade deal with India, (yippy) in the middle of the biggest disaster in India. Yeah right, because India's GDP is alot bigger that the EU. Lol.

You really got a sense the Great British government is trying to spin this as a sucess story when it couldnt be further from the truth. And now the jewel in the crown of this shit show is....... one of their invitees (cough, India, cough) got Covid! What a shit show!
 

Xizor

Captain
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You say as India is dying now, but like two weeks ago there were like 500 deaths per day in Poland, so adjusting for the population it was like about 20000 in India a day.

And life was normal, no one gives a shit about this virus anymore, and Poles want to fully open the country.
How do you know deaths are not 20000 in India. Its open knowledge that deaths and infections go vastly underreported in India.
India is a case in itself.
 

Tyler

Captain
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No, unlike Vietnam, China, North Korea and Cuba (all with public land ownership), India is a capitalist state, building on the foundation of private property (land in India is private) and serving the interest of the capitalists. That's why its ruling class has no interest in saving their masses, even if it can mobilize.
That is exactly why they took so long to buy all the private lands necessary, before Japan could even start building the bullet train for India. Meanwhile Indonesia highspeed railway which is built by China is moving ahead quickly.
 

Tyler

Captain
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You know it doesn't really sound like India is the international vaccine juggernaut as claimed. They're just the cheap factory outsourced by the West. If they're dependent on the West for all their raw medical ingredients to make vaccines, they aren't a powerhouse. If all these Western countries are desperate for vaccines from India... good luck with eliminating China from your supply chain. Do you see China's medical supply line in chaos...? And just imagine if China surrendered to adopt their way of doing things. It would be a horror show with the West in charge and no one would know there were better choices.
China supplies vaccine raw ingredients to Brazil for the making of the Sinovac vaccine. China is also a big supplier of raw ingredients to India's generic drug industry. How come China is not a leader in generic drugs industry?
 
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