Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

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supersnoop

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xiabonan said:
This.

There was a Chinese movie that came out in 2018 titled "Dying to Survive" which was a huge hit and it told a story exactly about this issue. The movie was about how A Chinese leukaemia patient smuggles cheap but untested drugs from India to help hundreds of Chinese people suffering from cancer, and this movie was based on a real-life story.

In real life and in the movie, this person was prosecuted and sentenced for a few years, I believe under smuggling charges and selling "counterfeit" drugs charges.

A follow-up is, both in real life and in the movie, the Chinese government negotiated a better deal with large pharmaceutical companies and heavily subsidized this and a range of other drugs and included them in the nation's universal healthcare system, such that now patients no longer have to pay so much for this drug.

Also, this process of negotiating better deals with Big Pharma and including more life-saving drugs in healthcare has been going on in China for quite some time and it is still ongoing.
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This is a little off-topic, but the "reforms" to the healthcare system are widely seen as DXP's biggest mistake.

Why in the world he decided to adopt an American-style system with mostly private providers for a poor country is a facepalm thing. Without the elasticity in demand, basically market forces play no part in healthcare. That being said, everyone makes mistakes.

Basically every successor after Jiang Zemin has been trying to turn back the clock on it.
 
solarz

solarz

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Gatekeeper said:
You can't make this sxxt up. This sxxt show just got better. I was watching this on the British bullsxxt corporation otherwise known as the BBC.

And their entire propaganda machine went overdrive. That creep Dominic Babbs taking centre stage basking in this limelight, trying his hardest to look prime ministerial for when Boris steps down. But only succeeding on how awkward he looks standing on the stairs, all looking like stiff dummies that they are.

The U.S. President was right when he said, "that Britain has lost an empire and is trying to find a role for itself". And this personify when Babbs trying to present Great Britain as is still an important country!

There were louding how it is the "richest" 7 nations in the world having a meeting (in another word, how impotant these 7 countries are to the world). Lol

On what defination? On GDP? Well, where's China? On GDP per capita? Then where's Norway? On PPP? Then where's China again?

And then they went on to say these 7 countries are making a stand against "authitarian" countries. (No mention about arms sales to Saudis then). Then under the same breadth, announced that India and South Africa was also invited! Lol

On top of this, the trade Minster, Liz Truss announced trade deal with India, (yippy) in the middle of the biggest disaster in India. Yeah right, because India's GDP is alot bigger that the EU. Lol.

You really got a sense the Great British government is trying to spin this as a sucess story when it couldnt be further from the truth. And now the jewel in the crown of this shit show is....... one of their invitees (cough, India, cough) got Covid! What a shit show!
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On what level of retardation are they holding an in person meeting in the middle of the pandemic?
 
solarz

solarz

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supersnoop said:
This is a little off-topic, but the "reforms" to the healthcare system are widely seen as DXP's biggest mistake.

Why in the world he decided to adopt an American-style system with mostly private providers for a poor country is a facepalm thing. Without the elasticity in demand, basically market forces play no part in healthcare. That being said, everyone makes mistakes.

Basically every successor after Jiang Zemin has been trying to turn back the clock on it.
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Well one advantage that immediately comes to mind is that it attracted foreign investment and brought with them medical and pharmaceutical technology China didn't have at the time.

Certainly, there is always a flip side to the coin.
 
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badoc

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Xsizor said:
Wait .

Does that mean Pfizer vaccines are not effective against the Indian variant ? Anecdotal, I know, but still....
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Sadly, but I believe that is the case.
Singapore only using the Pfizer vaccine presently.

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Temstar

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This seems like quite a precarious situation. Due to the scale of the outbreak and speed of spread in India there's ample opportunity for the virus to mutate and overcome barriers. Anyone selling their vaccine to India run the risk of mutated variants arising out of the subcontentant that can dodge the vaccine thanks to selective evolutionary pressure and then spreading to rest of the world, making their vaccine worthless.
 
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badoc said:
Sadly, but I believe that is the case.
Singapore only using the Pfizer vaccine presently.

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TTSH Covid-19 cluster sparked by new variant that originated in India​

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From what I understand, Singapore has only approved Western vaccines and not Russian or Chinese ones? I understand why Taiwan won't approve, but can someone explain Singapore's logic? I understand Singapore is supposed to be neutral 中立 about this West-East thing.
 
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nugroho

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Skye_ZTZ_113 said:
The more and more I hear about what's going on there, the more I think we're looking at a 21 years economic setback, like Modi's own warning. It may sound alarmist but I think we'll see 20M dead Indians before this thing ends in India and that'll be from external and independent local estimates. Official figures might tally only a million or so but the damage and losses will be clear to anyone on the ground. They have so many factors that worsen a contagion that it boggles the mind. You could take a box of the stuff the Western media said about China during the Wuhan epidemic and throw it at India, finding out that most of it suddenly sticks. Corruption preventing aid movements, bureaucracy slowing down actions, silencing of actual whistleblowers and Soviet-style denials of any problems to name but a few. India will cease to be relevant even as a regional power by the time it's over. And it can happen all over again as yet another mutation striking, perhaps the generally vaccine resistant/evasive strain that I've feared is coming. With India's extreme population density, population and just enough connectivity, we might see it rotating from place A -> B -> C -> A and so on. Basically the nightmare scenario that had China's enemies rolling in glee last year. I truly pity the people on the ground even now.
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And... A lot of MSM last year talk about.......... regime change, would it apply too to India?
 
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