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Petrolicious88

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The last part of this article is one of the most important. It said “it almost impossible for China’s semiconductor to be completely void of US components/supply China, but it is realistic for China to come up with globally competitive alternatives. ANd US is paying close attention to this latter development”.
I think you quote the wrong the conclusion Here is the right conclusion All the sanction do is slow down the Chinese advance a bit I say 1 or 2 years but eventually they will figure out how to create independent semiconductor supply chain as this taiwanese guy said. They shoot themselves in the foot by removing the last impediment of Chinese advance with those stupid sanction leaving the FAB no choice but to buy local product And therefore help the like of NAURA, SMEE, etc Like they say neccesities is the mother of invention/
All in all a well balance article by Nikkei. I guess the Jap know what Chinese are capable of good research

"In the short term, due to geopolitical uncertainties, China's tech development could be slowed a bit," said Miin Wu, founder and chairman of Macronix International, a leading memory chipmaker in Taiwan that serves Apple, Sony and Nintendo. "However, in the longer run, from China's perspective, it will definitely hope to build a competitive industry. It's a trend that is hard to resist, and there is no turning back."
 

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UpThese are very low output sources. Not exactly a good fit for lithography.
I think better not to dismiss this out of hand till more familiar with the technology and its capabilities. After all if can ramp up to the required power for DPP EUV which utilize a diffused plasma cloud, I don't see why tabletop synchrotron emitted EUV can't. And these machines are 'tabletop' or 'desktop' sized in name only ( relative to the size of the normal behemoth sized synchrotron machine), they can occupy a volume of 2 to 3 rooms. The more pressing concerns are whether this technology is amenable to the SSMB treatment and can it offer high repetition rate of discharge.
 

antiterror13

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EUV lithography is one of the hardest things Humans have ever achieved, if not the hardest. The light source is also the most difficult part to re-create in an EUV lithography machine.

nahhh, I don't believe that myth ... the reason only ASML able to do that because the market is so small ... there is not enough rooms for 10 players. But now China has to create one .. it is beyond economic reasoning. Money TALK my friend

Do you really think that the US, China or Japan couldn't develop EUV machine? are they really dumb and the Dutch is the only one that smart enough? ... think about it

The only and only reason the US, China and Japan didn't develop it seriously, because they didn't have to ... but now China has to develop on its own .. and I have no doubt it will be successful in 3-5 yrs and it will be the end of ASML as a few other big countries want to develop the technology as well without US tech, Japan included. It is all because of Trump playing fire and sadly Biden continue that dump policy
 

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I think better not to dismiss this out of hand till more familiar with the technology and its capabilities. After all if can ramp up to the required power for DPP EUV which utilize a diffused plasma cloud, I don't see why tabletop synchrotron emitted EUV can't. And these machines are 'tabletop' or 'desktop' sized in name only ( relative to the size of the normal behemoth sized synchrotron machine), they can occupy a volume of 2 to 3 rooms. The more pressing concerns are whether this technology is amenable to the SSMB treatment and can it offer high repetition rate of discharge.
A research paper regarding this
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