Chinese Remote Weapons Station

no_name

Colonel
Well, maybe it's not meant to be mobile or be maneuvering while in battle, maybe it's meant to move itself into a position and stay there. because it could be next to impossible to manually carry a large gun by grunts?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
It seems a given that it would be stationary when firing, note the structure under the body directly under the gun. it looks like a stand meant to hold the body of the platform also the "Arms" seem to be meant to brace the body when standing. but even then it seems unlikely it would be able to move around following infantry. all i can think is it's meant for very short range movements. say deployed with troops at at camp from a helicopter it would be moved into position for a century and used as part of camp defenses.
 

Skywatcher

Captain
even then it's iffy sure you would have a good ground clearance but where is the power supply? no power source no movement no movement no use. at the top speeds of this thing with thin spindle legs moving at the hip we are looking at something that although it might be a okay rock crawler would have no real mobility

You actually have a lot of internal volume in the "crab walker", since the RWS looks like a 20-30mm autocannon. It should have enough juice to go at around 4-8km per hour, which is plenty when supporting infantry.
 

Skywatcher

Captain
According to this article this is actually being considered.

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Well, the article abstracts that some pretty respectable research is being done with the technology behind the "crab walker", so it probably has some level of funding from somewhere in the Chinese military industrial complex, though we did note that a future Chinese UGV could just as well take on another design concept, like wheels or with less legs.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I would put more behind a 14.5x115mm varaint of the QJG02 machine gun then a cannon besides there is no ammo box on the crab walker and the legs would still be very light for the recoil of a auto cannon.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
What if these crab crawler mechs can be used under water for both defense against littoral and expeditionary forces and provide fire support as well for marines beach landings?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Sorry Equation, but a conventional bullet whether small arms or cannon faces hydro dynamic shock. The water produces extreme amounts of drag ripping all the energy out of it and destroying the bullets unless the round is super caveating then it still losses alot of energy and range.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
I would put more behind a 14.5x115mm varaint of the QJG02 machine gun then a cannon besides there is no ammo box on the crab walker and the legs would still be very light for the recoil of a auto cannon.


Look at the pictures, its got two hind legs that are mainly there to brace it when firing, as well as what looks like a centerline stand that would also be extended when firing to give it add stability.

My first guess would be that it is designed as a mobile heavy weapons platform for paras, marines and light mountain units. Probably special forces as well.

These crab walkers might also be useful in urban combat, especially if there has been some collateral damage.

At this stage and within the next couple of decades, walkers will not become serious direct competitors to tracked and wheeled armour, but would rather branch off to create new niche position for itself, much like how UCAVs have complemented manned combat aircraft.

Compared to an F22 or even F15, predators and reapers are clumsy, slow, awkward looking and underarmed. That didn't stop them, and those same counters won't stop this thing if the Chinese can get it to work reasonably well and the PLA brass is impressed enough to grant them a contract.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Wolfe I considered those and the stand, for a heavy cannon its all to light and the scale would make it a blatant target. Now look at the gun the barrel and receiver are close in ratios to the QJG, note the traverse also seems open to firing over the horizon. As to urban combat, this thing even if we go with a heavy cannon allowing 8kph would be RPG bait.
Its to slow to spindly. As a concept role best i can think of is as a positionable triple A gun. At a base camp it is set up to offer defense when breaking down camp it loads its self on the back of a flat bed truck and maybe then sets up for defense.
As a concept I just don't think its realistic. The multiped configuration is going to be to slow, although it may traverse obstacles its not going to maneuver with forces. If its packing your BFG its going to be to high to transport and self deployment is out at its snails pace. Don't get me wrong I do believe that the True combat UCGV is coming, but speed maneuver and sensors are critical to that future. This concept lacks all of those.
 

cyan1320

Junior Member
My opinion is that the "crab walker" will be slow (about human walking speed) keeping up with infantry.
Not that this is bad, it would still be handy. Maybe have it provide light fire support?
With the option of leaving it in areas already captured to prevent re-capture by the opposing force
And have the gun swappable, so diffenrent weapon can be swapped in depending on the need.
Still good to have, but more defensive in nature.


Think they should build something like Darpa's robot cheetah :D
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Now a gun mounted on this thing running at 30mph through the bush against enemy forces, that would be scarey.
"Must kill John Connor" LOL :rofl:
 
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