China's Space Program News Thread
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Of course.
So everything looks the same because the fundamentals remain the same. Martian's wheel is as round as the Earthling's wheel.
- 50 tonnes TLI is the minimum meaningful payload to the moon.
- 150 translates to about 50 to 70 tonnes TLI depending on the mode of launch.
- Ares and CZ-9 are aimed for that payload.
- SLS is the reincarnation of Ares.
See the post below. For some reason, I can't combine the 2 posts.
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I think that could be the case.
LM9 with an LEO payload of 100 tonnes would not be capable of sending the manned command capsule + service module + landing module to the moon in one go.
In that case, 921 could be responsible for sending part of the overall moon mission payload possibly just on the part of the manned module.
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I always thought that part of Ares plan was pretty smart. To have one big, none man rated rocket to loft big payloads like lunar landing stack or space stations or parts of a Mars capable nuclear thermal rocket spacecraft into LEO, then people ride a smaller man rated rocket up to meet up with it. Docking in LEO is hardly errrm, brain surgery.
You wouldn't for example put people inside Skylab and launch it with a Saturn V, so for missions like that the man rating is wasted. That's making the same mistake as Space "we put 5 people inside a space plane just to launch a satellite" Shuttle.
III. Manned lunar exploration program initial concept
(1) Discussion on flight mode
Based on new generation manned rocket and lunar orbit rendezvous plan, the launch vehicles and spacecraft include:
✓ New generation manned launch vehicle
✓ New generation manned spacecraft
✓ Lunar lander
? Lunar orbit station
? Mobile lunar surface manned laboratory
The answer is a 100%. There was never a doubt. 921 is the reincarnation of CZ-5DY which is the dedicated crew launcher for the moon landing. CZ-9 has never been tasked to send man to the moon at least not in the beginning.
P.S. I take that you took the NASA terminology.
I think your thought is based on the 100t figure. However, CZ-9's payload figure has been 140t for more than 10 years, recently new figure 150t was mentioned. Luan Enjie's recent speech was "100t class", instead of "100t exactly". The "100t class" has been used in many research papers to refer to the proposed CZ-9/Heavy lifter, but in the mean time PPT states 140t. With 140/150 LEO (LTO 50t) being set, your concerns are not needed.
CM+SM+LM sent in one piece was never the plan.
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CASC just released 3 fresh pictures taken by TianWen-1，
B/W pictures are taken by high-resolution camera, the diameter of the largest crater in the first picture is around 620 meters.
the color picture is taken by medium-resolution camera, shows the North pole ares of Mars
B/W pictures are taken by high-resolution camera, the diameter of the largest crater in the first picture is around 620 meters.
the color picture is taken by medium-resolution camera, shows the North pole ares of Mars
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